I’ll try find it for you pal, there’s a list of donations going straight to the party also in the millions, I don’t disagree with the message as racism needs kicking into touch, don’t agree with their methods

As I've said before - If the money donated to BLM goes straight to the Democratic party then that would be wrong
If this company are taking their "Cut" - Then they pass on the remaining 96% or whatever then it is up to them what they do with their 4%

Some people may not want that company to do that, but it is their right
No different than the NRA making massive donations to the Republican party or Healthcare companies doing the same - So Donald continues his De-regulation etc.

The bit about "don’t agree with their methods" I would like to understand more, as I have seen a lot of allegations without seeing much evidence (BLMUK is a totally different situation)
However for example
"Defund the Police" is a completely different set-up/Message in USA
I have watched dozens of programs on the American Law enforcement set up over the last 4/5 years - And A LOT of those programs/documentaries etc. are critical of a lot of the way that it is set up - Not going to Bore everyone anymore, but basically the "Defund the Police Message" is more about stopping the increase in police budget and asking them to deal with EVERY issue out there from Marital/Drug/Social/Mental health issues etc. and put more funds into the specialist departments that deal with those issues.
It's a Bat S*** Crazy country - I don't like the way our leadership with Brexit etc. are mimicking their methods & Messages which are based on Gaslighting/Blame culture & dismissing EVERY message that doesn't fit their stance as "Fake News" or a Hoax.

Anyway

Good on the club for investing in players whilst in the midst of such a difficult situation
If my & my families £300/400 for the remainder of my ST's price for 2020 has been used or in some way made the clubs decision to reinvest in John Bateman and help retain younger players coming through easier then I'm absolutely fine with that.

Is this a bad time to ask Enforcer to contribute to the Wigan RL Covid fund?

wish I was a season ticket holder this year so I could have said the same but every home game fell on my weekend on

joined the lotto and bought from the shop as most have my family has, would love to donate towards the fundraiser if it happens also

The American BLM Movement has taken back race relations and the multi-cultural society in our country back years and created more racial tension between White and Black/Asian people.

You only have to look at the increased number of racist comments from both sides on the social media compared to the number there was before anyone in our country had heard of the movement in America.

All lives matter, irrespective of colour, race or religion.

***Mods***
I'm ok if you want to Lock this thread etc.
Pretty sure most posters will be ok if you lock this thread
I appreciate I could just not respond, but I dont feel it is appropriate to sit back and say nothing, if its locked I cant, and someone can always start another leneghan letter thread if required.

In your opinion
I guess those "Damn Blacks" (in reference to a prominent statement of the last week ago) would be better just staying quiet eh?
I mean, it's only all got out of hand since they started making a fuss about it?

Racist comments from both sides, ok, everyone would just be better if those blacks/asians kept quiet and stopped upsetting those damn racist whites so they didnt have to tweet/reply back their racist replies?

All Lives Matter, including Black, Asian, gay, straight, etc. Etc.

So next time its mothers day, we can argue about how Fathers day matters
Then 3 months later when its fathers day we can argue about Mothers day matters.

No celebrating the NHS
I mean Private Healthcare workers lives matter to?

Let's stop "Help the aged" as I'm sure Children and middle age people need helping as well?
Whilst were at it let's not "Save the children" because ???

No "Prostate Cancer" badges, God am I sick of all those ex footballers and pundits on TV every week, shoving it down my throat about bloody prostate cancer.
My relatives died of bladder cancer, and other cancers, and what do you get from Sky footballers and pundits, NOTHING!
BLOODY SKY, THE CANCER RACISTS (I dont know what people are called who like one kind of cancer and not others?).
My uncle has prostate cancer though, so if anything happens there I'll let you know though.
I may change my opinion on that "When it affects me".

I could go on but I reckon most people will get it
And whilst I agree most people will want to get on with rugby, talk about rugby etc., I do believe sport, music has a place to play in leading and educating in society, and after the last few months God have they got their work cut out.

Anyway, as I say please feel free to lock?
I think were done here????

Wow.

Maybe Rosa Parks should have agreed to stand in her section on the bus as that caused a fair bit of fuss and anger at the time.

What about Ruby Bridges? Maybe she should have just stayed at home rather than go to get an education as that seemed to create a whole heap of trouble.

Let’s just ignore and pretend social injustices are not a thing. That way nobody will highlight them, nobody will address them and there will be no debate.

Seems like a good idea.

Nothing bad ever happened by not challenging social injustice or highlighting it......

And what about Rugby Union.
Do you think that a black man would have even played for South Africa, never mind captained them and been presented with the World Cup trophy by a black president if other teams and countries in different sports, athletics, cricket football etc hadn't stood up against apartheid?

If you ever get the chance to speak to Billy Boston ask him of his disappointment with the management of the 1954 GB touring side to Australia and New Zealand. They were "invited" to play exhibition games in South Africa on the way back but were told that Boston couldn't stay in the same hotel as the rest of the team.

Billy came declining the "invite" but says the players and management should have backed him and ALL come home.

Well, this thread wasn't what I expected!

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And what about Rugby Union. Do you think that a black man would have even played for South Africa, never mind captained them and been presented with the World Cup trophy by a black president if other teams and countries in different sports, athletics, cricket football etc hadn't stood up against apartheid? If you ever get the chance to speak to Billy Boston ask him of his disappointment with the management of the 1954 GB touring side to Australia and New Zealand. They were "invited" to play exhibition games in South Africa on the way back but were told that Boston couldn't stay in the same hotel as the rest of the team. Billy came declining the "invite" but says the players and management should have backed him and ALL come home.'" Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And what about Rugby Union. Do you think that a black man would have even played for South Africa, never mind captained them and been presented with the World Cup trophy by a black president if other teams and countries in different sports, athletics, cricket football etc hadn't stood up against apartheid? If you ever get the chance to speak to Billy Boston ask him of his disappointment with the management of the 1954 GB touring side to Australia and New Zealand. They were "invited" to play exhibition games in South Africa on the way back but were told that Boston couldn't stay in the same hotel as the rest of the team. Billy came declining the "invite" but says the players and management should have backed him and ALL come home.'" Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g

Quote ="Jack Burton"Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g'" Going to watch that later Heard about him through the codebreakers program and hadn't realised his history. Sounds like he was 20years ahead of his time

Quote ="Jack Burton"Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g'" Going to watch that later Heard about him through the codebreakers program and hadn't realised his history. Sounds like he was 20years ahead of his time

Jack Burton, thank you what a brilliant bit of video work that is.

It's a good job you guys are not posting on the other forum you would have been banned sine die! Well you would unless you agreed with Mike

Haha!!!!
I'm so glad I lost my password for that site (and I intend on never getting it reset!, as I'm sure Daveo is

)

Quote ="Jack Burton"Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g'" That's very good And some very interesting observations in it as well not just about the past, but the current state of affairs also.

Quote ="Jack Burton"Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g'" That's very good And some very interesting observations in it as well not just about the past, but the current state of affairs also.

Quote ="Jack Burton"Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g'" Good watch, thats the end of the Harry Sunderland trophy.

Quote ="Jack Burton"Great video on the great Roy Francis: https://youtu.be/FRX27awOb6g'" Good watch, thats the end of the Harry Sunderland trophy.

Sounds to me that this Mike is a bit of a Dictator!

Banned me and others but didn’t ban the moderator, proper dictatorship as he only enforced it on who he chose

The other forum is just a cut n paste site, very rarely do I use it now

Mikes just basically broke the site, was struggling before the bans, he then basically banned everyone who posted except mods, the unbanned then if they appealed, just unban everyone then......

That site was a classic example of what happens when you allow gobsh88es to rule the roost.

There've been trouble-makers on here too, but they've usually been dealt with. On there, they were allowed to run riot … in a couple of cases because they professed inside knowledge, which fabrication the site controller seemed to completely buy into.

Haven't been on there in years and don't miss it.

Posting the Covid fundraiser wasnt acceptable to them either apparently. Unlike the moderators on here who couldnt have been more helpful.

I got permanently banned with no way back, I didn't even say nowt really, unbelievable, He totally lost it when Corbin lost the exit polls thus guaranteeing Brexit

I thought we weren't doing politics?