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Not to worry come 2012 they will be out on their and Widnes will be in. Bet they will wish they ground shared with Wakefield then!
Re Cas fans - Maurice dead, buring shirts on youtube, the violence at the jungle, really lads, go throw your stones elsewhere.
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| i remember all the abuse thrown at us from cas fans because the felt they had been cheated when infact if they had bothered to look properly at the table we would of still stayed in super league and they still would of been relegated....but thats the past and should stay there
as for calling ALL wire fans scum i think that is out of order and i feel it should be stopped....the person who said it is being an idiot...out of the crowd on saturday only a handful caused a bit of comotion andf from what i saw it was delt with quickly......
after the game a bloke came up to me and was agressive (im 5ft 4in and female) but was quite shocked when i told him where to go.....but i put that down to him being an idiot not the whole of the wire fans. at wigan we have afew idiots who think they are being clever shouting stuff then hiding behind the crowd...sadly that is the way some are.......to stop it we have to tell them when it happens we the mijority wont tollerate that behaviour at our wonderful game.......all fans from all clubs should do it them maybe the idiots will stay at home or go follow another spoty
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| Quote ="MUM ! Dad's farted !!!"I just looked at that photo assuming its g*tty images89710676 and what a surprise the four drunken s from row 14 who wanted to fight everybody mentioned in my earlier post are in the middle of the action, all shirtless, with the ringleader stood sideways on, nearest pitch level. The action looks to be taking place on row 6........ they were sat in row 14? must have been a bit boring for them up there so they jojned in on the hearest fight
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could somebody pm me a link to these pictures please.........i cant find them
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| Quote ="Dave T"Unfortunately, incidents happens at games like this. Fans are drinking from early on, and are hyped up, so get giddy and act stupidly at times.
I have seen it at plenty of Grand Finals, between Saints and Leeds, and Wigan and Bradford.
It wasn't Warrington fans on those days.'"
and there lies the problem........alcohol.
its worse at G/F with the evening KO.
The solution Imo (and its drastic) would be to bring semi finals and finals of both G/F and CC forward to a noon kick off, and ban alcohol in the grounds, and let the ones who go for a booze up have one after the game when all the decent fans and families have gone home.
i predict by doing that there would be a great drop in attendances , which will strengthen my argument that some people use these events to have an all dayer and overdo it.
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| A noon kick off for the CC final would be a problem in terms of fans who want to go there for the day as most will be coming from up north.
I can see your point and in a way agree with it but you won't stop the people drinking before the game, and the majority of people can drink without going on to cause trouble so perhaps what would be better is more proactive policing/stewarding of the game with those who are causing problems being removed from the game and the surrounding areas leaving those who do care about the actual game to enjoy it.
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| Quote ="gateaux"A noon kick off for the CC final would be a problem in terms of fans who want to go there for the day as most will be coming from up north.
I can see your point and in a way agree with it but you won't stop the people drinking before the game, and the majority of people can drink without going on to cause trouble so perhaps what would be better is more proactive policing/stewarding of the game with those who are causing problems being removed from the game and the surrounding areas leaving those who do care about the actual game to enjoy it.'"
well thats another solution.
they do it a footy matches, and its an offence to enter a football ground under the influence IIRC.........if youve had too many , you dont get in.
a visit to the surrounding pubs too, and confiscate tickets off anyone who looks to have had too much to drink.......then they can stay in the pub and leave the rest of us to watch the match in peace.
the noon KOs are (i believe) done at the insistance of the local police who decide what times games kick off , as they are the ones policing the games. Saturday night they are srtetched enough in Manc, so if there carries on being bother at G/F they might force the RL to move the KO to noon , like they do with selective Man u and City games.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Selective memory too, eh? There's a surprise.
If I could be bothered, I'd go looking for the posts made on this board by Cas fans threatening to give Wigan fans a few slaps on their fist visit after relegation. Not that any of you did, which is somehow even more pathetic.
You're a joke, and you know it.
The very fact that you're on here angrily defending Wire fans, who far and away have the worst rep in RL, indicates that you've still got a bug in your ass about Wigan. Grow up and get some self-respect.'" Have we got a worse reputation than hull?
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Have we got a worse reputation than hull?'"
Mmm debateable.
From a personal point of view yes. I have beem to plenty of Hull matches and found the Hull fans ( both teams) great to be around, no problems whatsoever!
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"eusa_clap.gif
and there lies the problem........alcohol.
its worse at G/F with the evening KO.
The solution Imo (and its drastic) would be to bring semi finals and finals of both G/F and CC forward to a noon kick off, and ban alcohol in the grounds, and let the ones who go for a booze up have one after the game when all the decent fans and families have gone home.
i predict by doing that there would be a great drop in attendances , which will strengthen my argument that some people use these events to have an all dayer and overdo it.'"
Totally agree. Its all alcohol related. They cant handle their drink. If they banned alcohol then the morons wouldnt even turn up, its just an excuse for an all dayer, like you said.
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| I object most strongly to being call SCUM. I am a 66 year old lady and a Warrington Season ticket holder, and yes a fan, perhaps the people who say all Warrington fans are scum, should think maybe someone would say that about his/her mother or father
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| Wondered when Hull would get a mention! Jesus, think this should be locked now.
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| Quote ="lummy"Wondered when Hull would get a mention! Jesus, think this should be locked now.'"
Agreed, its turned into a contest who has the worst fans.
Every club has the minority, who want to start trouble. You will get that anywhere in any sport. In th ewords of the Meerkat, simples
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| I object most strongly to being call SCUM. I am a 66 year old lady and a Warrington Season ticket holder, and yes a fan, perhaps the people who say all Warrington fans are scum, should think maybe someone would say that about his/her mother or father
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| What a joke of a thread.
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| Pie eater and Proud wrote..."Totally agree. Its all alcohol related. They cant handle their drink. If they banned alcohol then the morons wouldnt even turn up, its just an excuse for an all dayer, like you said"
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| dont talk bollox...i attend plenty of rugby matches and have a good drink and an all dayer as you put it....it dosnt mean i want to fight with everyone i see just because my team won/lost!
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| I have been to many grounds away from home and have not seen any sign of trouble at all. This season we walked back to our car at the KC stadium surrounded by loads of Hull FC fans and not trouble or comments at all, just good natured fans who wished us well for the season.
I have been to games at the JJB where after the match some so called Wigan fans have been spoiling for a fight with away fans after the match.
I have been to one grand final (2003) and one challenge cup final (2004) where the people around us behaved worse than in the major football events we have been to. It is like the big event brings out the cretins from behind thier rocks.
As for who has got the worst fans and who is the scum of rugby league, well what an absolute nonsense. We all have some fans we wish we hadn't, each and every single team in SL. But on the whole we have a damn load of fans who are a credit to our game.
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| i strongly disagree with the alcohol banning ...why should the majority suffer for the minority...i by the way dont drink as i have my 6 year old daughter with me....but dont see why others shouldnt...its part of our game ..a few drinks with opposing fans ..a bit of banter and off to the game....WE ARE NOT FOOTBALL FANS
.my hubby runs coaches and we have a mixed age group ....2-70.......and if anyone on our buses does anything remotely out of order we stop it straight away.....as i said previously we as fans need to police our own supporters and stop it before it escalates.....Rugby League is a family sport ...lets keep it that way
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| Quote ="elliegg"i strongly disagree with the alcohol banning ...why should the majority suffer for the minority...i by the way dont drink as i have my 6 year old daughter with me....but dont see why others shouldnt...its part of our game ..a few drinks with opposing fans ..a bit of banter and off to the game....WE ARE NOT FOOTBALL FANS
.my hubby runs coaches and we have a mixed age group ....2-70.......and if anyone on our buses does anything remotely out of order we stop it straight away.....as i said previously we as fans need to police our own supporters and stop it before it escalates.....Rugby League is a family sport ...lets keep it that way'"
i like a couple of pints at games myself, but its these big occasions that attract a minority of idiots who use it as an excuse to get legless and want to take on all comers.
as i said earlier...its just one solution , but its drastic.
and i do agree ....why should we let a minority spoil it for the majority.
maybe if we brought the ban in for a couple of seasons and see if they go to footy instead????
and as i again said earlier...these decisions rest finally with the local police.
If theres continual trouble , it THE POLICE who have powers to shut down bars and bring in alcohol bans , and move KO times.
lets hope it never comes to that , and that we can get our rugby league house in order ourselves
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| Quote ="wigan pie man"i like a couple of pints at games myself, but its these big occasions that attract a minority of idiots who use it as an excuse to get legless and want to take on all comers.
as i said earlier...its just one solution , but its drastic.
and i do agree ....why should we let a minority spoil it for the majority.
maybe if we brought the ban in for a couple of seasons and see if they go to footy instead????
and as i again said earlier...these decisions rest finally with the local police.
If theres continual trouble , it THE POLICE who have powers to shut down bars and bring in alcohol bans , and move KO times.
lets hope it never comes to that , and that we can get our rugby league house in order ourselves'"
Exactly........i would say i vast number of fans go for the event, and all day drink with their mates yet dont cause problems.....the problems are caused by mindless morons with too much testostorone and something to prove! What the RFL needs to do is ban this minority of morons from the game! In wires case youd probably be getting rid of half their crowd tbh but if that needs to be done get it done!! That picture for example should be sent to the club and the police and all the offenders banned....its a pretty good picture in decent resolution so it cant be too hard to find those idiots and slap banning orders on them.....i recon simply by posting that picture on the wire site here you could get half of em by the decent fans coming forward saying who they were!
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"What the RFL needs to do is ban this minority of morons from the game! In wires case youd probably be getting rid of half their crowd tbh !'"
What a stupid comment, at least you're consistent.
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| Quote ="Sir Lee Briers"What a stupid comment, at least you're consistent.'"
Its even more stupid that hes banging on about this picture which is of a wigan fan being removed by stewards.
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| I've had enough of this thread and the bickering between Wigan and Warrington fans on here. It's getting like the Hull/HKR forums.
I thought we'd done quite well to keep things relatively quiet after the semi and fair play to people who seem to have read the warnings both here and on the Wire forum but I thought it would be too good to last.
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