The ironies in Super League know no end.

The so-called Tigers were ready to disappear up their own collective fundament when we did that in 2006.

What a bunch of phonies.

Heinz 57. That means it could be 57 to 1 it's correct!





Rock 'n' Roll.

depends whether they were over the cap before the deferred payments, think it was the fact the players agreed not to take the money and treat it as a loan to the club so it was still part of the salary cap for that year

Check out pemps sig I got told season over when he did it now this confirms it

Confirmed on Wigan Today. In some ways could be disruptive though. Half backs for Wakey likely to be Finch/Smith, Leeds semi Finch/Lockers? www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-4714039

Confirmed on Wigan Today. In some ways could be disruptive though. Half backs for Wakey likely to be Finch/Smith, Leeds semi Finch/Lockers? www.wigantoday.net/sport/wigan-w ... -1-4714039

Before some jump in feet first and do exactly the thing they accuse other team's fans of with regard to us, the Wigan and Cas deferred payments situation doesn't look the same.

We got done because what was paid and then the payments that were deferred added to more than the cap in that particular year. i.e. we signed Fielden and Dobson and the only way we could pay wages under the cap was to get some player to agree to deferred payments, completely ignoring the fact a basic accounting principle (upon which the cap is based) is that payments relate to when services were received, NOT when they were actually paid.

In the Cas situation it looks like due to financial problems they simply couldn't afford to pay some players, but contracted payments in 2009 didn't break the cap limit, even though some were paid later.

According to Phil Wilkinson we've paid a fee and got him early. A good deal for both clubs, he would have left for free at the end of the season at Salford so they get some cash & we now have our scrum half for next season earlier to cover for Tommy. He'll also get to learn off Brett Finch for the rest of the season which should stand us in better stead come next year.

The only remaining issue is the CC semi-final. He's cup-tied and this could complicate matters. He plays against Wakefield I'm presuming with Lockers at 13, Finch at 6, but only the following week we'll be back to Lockers at 6, Finch at 7, Faz at 13. There's a part of me that would have sooner see us stuck to Lockers at six if only to give him and Finch more time to 'gel' for the semi-final.

I suppose we'll just have to get on with it. We can beat Leeds without Leuluai - signing Smith doesn't alter that. We can win one game without Matty Smith, but for the next ten weeks of our league campaign it could prove a very shrewd move till Leuluai regains his fitness.

The way I understand it, is that they deferred the payments not to get under the cap, but to ease general cash flow in the business.

Have you bought him on HP.

[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18735882[/url

It's been reported all over the internet now, good deal for the present and future.

Looks like Salford may have jumped the gun in releasing the info.

[urlhttp://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Rugby+League[/url

Matty Smith Joins Wigan Salford City Reds - Official Website 11:21

Nothing on the link now.

I wondered why Finch and Smith were in the Billinge Arms together on saturday, it all makes sense now!

Saw Smith in Franky & Benny's on Friday night

His profile has been removed from the Salford website. www.reds.co.uk/squad EDIT: Still there actually if you click the picture that's there in place of Smith but would seem it is being removed.

His profile has been removed from the Salford website. www.reds.co.uk/squad EDIT: Still there actually if you click the picture that's there in place of Smith but would seem it is being removed.

Enjoy our reject



In all honesty he's a good player and was unlucky after coming through at a time when we had Long and Eastmond.

If we could get him here now it would be a big boost.

well the Beeb seem to think its done with.

[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/18735882[/url

Yep - confirmed official on the beeb. Welcome to Wigan MS!

As a Salford fan he was a joy to watch, his passion on the pitch was great. He was an average player in our squad but with the players wigan have he will improve and be a quality player

Very good move. He's looked very impressive these past few games and at least we'll now have 2 proper half backs and SOL as loose forward for most games.

a reject you also tried re-signing?



but yes in all seriousness he seems pretty handy and has looked good at Salford this year so far. time will tell.

All but 2

wonder where this leaves us cap-wise

I'm happy with Smith signing.

But as I've said from day one a lot will depend on who Smith is partnered with, as to how well he and the team will perform.

Amos+Joel money = £££££ still room to move ??

Joel went before the start of the season (didnt he?) and id forgot about Amos