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| Quote ="Walter Neff"Ganson,,Alibert,,Bentham,,Silverwood,,Smith,,...None of them are any good are they?.....Child was Very Good tonight in the HKR game,but he will be dragged down to thier level...'"
I thought Child was very good when he reffed us earlier in the season. He actually consulted his touch judges!
He was also video ref for one of our games and he didn't spend half an hour on the decisions either.
I tend to agree though about being dragged down, our esteemed controller of referees will soon have him on the "little Hitler" training course.
It's interesting he has done so well because I am sure some of Leigh fans were posting on here he was totally rubbish in the NL.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I tend to agree though about being dragged down, our esteemed controller of referees will soon have him on the "little Hitler" training course.'"
I agree with this, he has bein excellent on Sky tonight and I agree re earlier in the year.
The problem is Cummings, how the RFL cant see it is beyond me.
The standard is going down week in week out and the boss has to be to blame.
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| Sour grapes from Wigan fans here......
Oh wait a second we won tonight so that means that the refs actually might not be up to the standard we should see in SL???? That can’t be right cause only the losing team complains about refereeing performances don’t they?
I lost track how many times I’ve been furious with a ref last season only to have it dismissed as sour grapes on here by away fans.
The ref was shocking tonight but once again nothing will ever happen about it. I mean look at Silverwood’s performance in the Wire vs Wigan match and the week after he’s in charge of the WCC??
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"What an awful performance from the man in [frog green tonight. How he is allowed to ref at this level is beyond me. Hull must have given away 10-12 penalties for lying on before he finally had a word with the captain - then refused to give any more penalties for lying on, in case he had to grow a set and send someone to the bin.'"
Wigan were also lying on, but alas no sign of 10-12 penalties the other way.
Congratulations on the win your attacking play was impressive and you made full use of the possession and field position you had.
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| Quote ="Garrincha's Dog"We had him v Harlequins on the opening weekend, absolutely shocking!
He managed to take Myler out as Mathers was clean through and about to pass to him.
Gave a pass from a Quin that Solomona knocked back as a knock on, and
Gave a forward pass as Myler scored from a pass that was knocked by a Quins hand.
So in short we'd have been at least 12 points closer to you men on the points difference.
[size=150He couldn't referee Blockbusters[/size.'"
Can I have "P" please Bob?
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| My main concern re: the weak decision making of some referees is head high tackles seem to be almost accepted by some refs as long as they are deemed not bad enough.
I really worry that this will increase the risk to players and it will be only a matter of time before a career ending injury occurs. Players should be scared of punishment for poor discipline in tackles, not surprised when it occurs which seems to be the case now!
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| It was a terrible preformence from Alibert tonight and even though the Hull fans probably feel hard done to they can think themselves quite lucky tbh. I've never seen a side as indisciplined as Hull tonight in a very long time and how at least a man or 2 didn't get put in the sin bin for holding down is beyond me. It was incredible stuff from Hull at times yet Mr Alibert didn't even half a word with the skipper.
The evening up of penalty count near the end including the awarding of a farcical try for Long really summed up just how bad this bloke is.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Wigan were also lying on, but alas no sign of 10-12 penalties the other way.
Congratulations on the win your attacking play was impressive and you made full use of the possession and field position you had.'"
So were FC and if we want to get picky in the second half there were 2 choke holds on Wigan players right in front of the linesman on the West Stand side in successive tackles but the officials did nothing.
Both sides were as niggly as each other but the problem was Halibut didn't show some balls and bin someone and so both sides carried on.
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| Quote ="AJ"Should not be officiating in the SL.
Simpily not up to the standard.'"
Here here, this guy is a disgrace, the young lad on thursday night for batley Vs Fax was far better imo, granted its at a different level, but the rules are still the same, the RFL/Cummings, must get a grip and deal with this idiot
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| I think half the problem with the ref standard is there are not enough of them for one reason or another. In football the ref is scored by the coaches. If they are deemed not good enough they are dropped to a lower division standard, A bit like our squad if your not good enough you get dropped. This should raise the standard of reffing.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It was a terrible preformence from Alibert tonight and even though the Hull fans probably feel hard done to they can think themselves quite lucky tbh. I've never seen a side as indisciplined as Hull tonight in a very long time and how at least a man or 2 didn't get put in the sin bin for holding down is beyond me. It was incredible stuff from Hull at times yet Mr Alibert didn't even half a word with the skipper.
The evening up of penalty count near the end including the awarding of a farcical try for Long really summed up just how bad this bloke is.'"
Agreed, and Agar had the cheek to complain about the ref!!!
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| Quote ="Wight Pie"So were FC and if we want to get picky in the second half there were 2 choke holds on Wigan players right in front of the linesman on the West Stand side in successive tackles but the officials did nothing.
Both sides were as niggly as each other but the problem was Halibut didn't show some balls and bin someone and so both sides carried on.'"
And we got punished for it. The holding down by all teams this season is getting beyond a joke.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"And we got punished for it. The holding down by all teams this season is getting beyond a joke.'"
Yeah, because all everyone wants to see is midgets scooting from dummy half all game.
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| Hull did themselves no favours tonight to be fair. The first 10-15 minutes was a great tussle and then they just lost the plot and started giving away pointless penalties.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Hull did themselves no favours tonight to be fair. The first 10-15 minutes was a great tussle and then they just lost the plot and started giving away pointless penalties.'"
Yep, they were far more interested in the biff than in playing the game.
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Quote ="8inarow"Here here, this guy is a disgrace, the young lad on thursday night for batley Vs Fax was far better imo, granted its at a different level, but the rules are still the same, the RFL/Cummings, must get a grip and deal with this idiot'"
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Ronnie Laughton ex super league ref
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| Ok, I think the penalties he awarded to Wigan were all correct, Hull were blatently lieing on, grappling, and miles offside. Did anyone see when Long purposley backed into Roberts as he jumped? CLEAR OBSTURCTION, couldnt believe he missed this. And when fitzgibbon had a go at Hansen? He penilizes Wigan. In the last 10 i thought froggy was a joke, cleary trying to even up the penalty count so it all looks fair. Poor reffering performance in general.
But great result, still very happy
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| Quote ="AJ"Yeah, because all everyone wants to see is midgets scooting from dummy half all game.
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Exactly. I hope the refs continue this a bit more so out fame becomes a bit more like aus, where you have to use a bit of attacking flair to break the line rather than a 5 foot speedy hooker.
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| Terrible ref. Caves in to any kind of appeal. All you have to do is ask for a penalty and you'll get it
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| No way should he be a SL ref more a under 14`s ref not upto the required standard to put it blunt the man is a joke.
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| He was CARP!
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| Quote ="rochdale warrior"He was CARP!'"
You're not codding.
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| Quote ="MattyB"You're not codding.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I've never seen a side as indisciplined as Hull tonight in a very long time and how at least a man or 2 didn't get put in the sin bin for holding down is beyond me. It was incredible stuff from Hull at times yet Mr Alibert didn't even half a word with the skipper.'"
Check out his [url=http://www.slstats.org/Referees/SinBinnedPerGame.htmlYellow Cards per game ratio[/url against other refs. They say it all really.
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| Quote ="JTB"Check out his [url=http://www.slstats.org/Referees/SinBinnedPerGame.htmlYellow Cards per game ratio[/url against other refs. They say it all really.'"
They really do.
I feel a little sorry for Mr Alibert at times because I get the feeling he's not overly confident in speaking the English language but thats upto the RFL to sort out.
The reffing situation is a real worry for me at the moment. It's getting to the point where you know your only going to get any decisions at home. That can't be right and really needs looking into. Each game has to be reffed on it's own merrits and not solely on which side is playing at home.
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