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| Quote ="Mother Feka"FWIW i think that will do us more good than if we had won it!'"
I don't think a defeat is ever 'good' for you, but I get your drift.
Realistically, this is the kind of result that fans of all sides should be getting themselves prepared for over the season.....Without wishing to come over all Eddie-like, this season promises to be very close, with most sides being closely matched.
As a Wire fan, I obviously wanted to see you come unstuck at some point, but I think its apparent that even from tonight's display, you Wiganers will certainly pose a threat to many teams over this season.
The only thing that would worry me about your performance tonight, was the way your forwards seemed to finish their shift a little early, obviously believing, at 20 points up, that you had done enough.... I still have my doubts about the likes of Fielden & Coley, and tonight didn't change that opinion.
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| McGuire's pretty much echoing what were all thinking, we built are selves a good lead yet through complacency let it slip.
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| I feel sick.
We played so well in the first half but Orford showed what a class player he is tonight and exposed us.
On the positive i thought Eamon O'Carrol was immense tonight, he showed up big time and made some strong drives with the ball.
Credit to Bradford but we need to get a lot smarter.
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| Quote ="dany1979"I feel sick.
We played so well in the first half but Orford showed what a class player he is tonight and exposed us.
On the positive i thought Eamon O'Carrol was immense tonight, he showed up big time and made some strong drives with the ball.
Credit to Bradford but we need to get a lot smarter.'"
Orford pulled our pants down but in reality we shouldn't have let him.
We worked our knackers off in the first half and closed down him and his runners space but in the 2nd half looked like a normal early season Wigan side and let Bradford take the game to us. We stood off in defence and didn't cover runners and in attack we looked lethargic and didn't support the man with the ball.
I expect that very poor 2nd half preformence to be put behind us next week win or lose. I can stand for losing aslong as the effort is there and unfortunatly it wasn't in that 2nd half tonight.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"FWIW i think that will do us more good than if we had won it!'"
No it wouldn't. That's just a cliché. You can learn form your mistakes but it's better not to make needless ones on this scale.
My concern is with a big game coming up V Hull it will have boosted their confidence no end and done ours no good at all. After all chucking away a 20-0 half time lead and conceding 22 unanswered points is a pretty appalling performance.
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| This is a real test for MM & SW.
How they get the team prepared for and how they play v Hull will show us the calibre of our new coaching staff.
If ever the team and the coaching staff need to realise it's an 80 minute game then it's now.
I'm sure they will have a lot to say and do this coming week.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"This is a real test for MM & SW.
How they get the team prepared for and how they play v Hull will show us the calibre of our new coaching staff.
If ever the team and the coaching staff need to realise it's an 80 minute game then it's now.
I'm sure they will have a lot to say and do this coming week.'"
They'll have us right for next week i'm sure.
It still may not actually be enough because Hull look a good side but we won't get complacent like tonight at any point and thats all you can ask for really.
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| Over confidence was clearly a big factor, 78-0 we were up after 1.5 games, the players god carried away and it cost them.
Im not bothered as such that we lost, that was always going to happen, its the manner of the defeat thats left me deflated.
We need to respond on Friday so that the excellent start we made isnt lost.
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| Quote ="AJ"Over confidence was clearly a big factor, 78-0 we were up after 1.5 games, the players god carried away and it cost them.
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Starting at half time at Wire to half time last night we had scored 96 points and conceded 4 in the last 2 games!!!! No wonder we got complacent!!!!
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| Quote ="Father Ted"This is a real test for MM & SW.
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The real test will come at the end of the season and can they take you one step further than noble could.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"No.
The real test will come at the end of the season and can they take you one step further than noble could.'"
I think we will be in the mix, too early to tell.
Maybe a few astute signings from Maguire in the next couple of seasons together with our youngsters coming through may take us to new heights.
I'm certainly hopeful.
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| I was chatting to some Wigan fans at h/t who said we'll go unbeaten this year. i told them at the time it was bollox and i hope all who ran theyre mouths on here and them enjoy the slap down, its the first of a few.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"I was chatting to some Wigan fans at h/t who said we'll go unbeaten this year. i told them at the time it was bollox and i hope all who ran theyre mouths on here and them enjoy the slap down, its the first of a few.'"
40mins worth of poor rugby have defalted some people beyond belief in the same way that 4 and a half good games made alot of people go way overboard.
The facts are we're a good side and we'll win more games then we lose but as I said last week i'd still be happy with a top 4 place at the end of the season. Any talk of walking through this season and sweeping all before us was silly as is any talk of us being a poor side now.
That defeat last night should enable all Wigan fans to find a nice balance of where we're at.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"40mins worth of poor rugby have defalted some people beyond belief in the same way that 4 and a half good games made alot of people go way overboard.
The facts are we're a good side and we'll win more games then we lose but as I said last week i'd still be happy with a top 4 place at the end of the season. Any talk of walking through this season and sweeping all before us was silly as is any talk of us being a poor side now.
That defeat last night should enable all Wigan fans to find a nice balance of where we're at.'"
I'm as disappointed as any that we lost last night, but out of 10 half's of rugby played, we've played badly once maybe twice and we got burned for it.
I'm with Nick, one bad half won't change my perception that the Wigan club as a whole is heading in the right direction, we look fiter, are style of play is better and in general the club is on the up.
Although I woke up a little miserable this morning my thoughts are now past the Bradford game and are focused on Hull FC and maintaining are 100% record at home, if we continue to do the good things in are game we'll be there or there abouts in all comps.
Last night we just switched off that's all nothing more, and I firmly believe that.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"40mins worth of poor rugby have defalted some people beyond belief in the same way that 4 and a half good games made alot of people go way overboard.
The facts are we're a good side and we'll win more games then we lose but as I said last week i'd still be happy with a top 4 place at the end of the season. Any talk of walking through this season and sweeping all before us was silly as is any talk of us being a poor side now.'"
Spot on
Top 4 should be our aim, and a 80% win ratio will probably get us third or fourth spot, something which i will be happy with
I think the defeat will give the players a reality check, and i think we are very capable of beating hull on our own patch which will give us 5 out of 6
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| Quote ="shambawangy"Spot on
Top 4 should be our aim, and a 80% win ratio will probably get us third or fourth spot, something which i will be happy with
I think the defeat will give the players a reality check, and i think we are very capable of beating hull on our own patch which will give us 5 out of 6'"
An 80% win ratio would probably get us top spot imo because the league is so tight but I don't really expect that.
If we lose around 7 or 8 games we'll be top 3 and thats a realistic ambition imo. We need to keep the form at home going and and try and improve our ball control, discipline and attitude(going simply on the 2nd half last night) away from home.
It's still happy days at the moment imo.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"40mins worth of poor rugby have defalted some people beyond belief in the same way that 4 and a half good games made alot of people go way overboard.
The facts are we're a good side and we'll win more games then we lose but as I said last week i'd still be happy with a top 4 place at the end of the season. Any talk of walking through this season and sweeping all before us was silly as is any talk of us being a poor side now.
That defeat last night should enable all Wigan fans to find a nice balance of where we're at.'"
Were definatly a good side but were far from brilliant, theres Leeds Saints Wire Us Huddersfield who i think will be the top 5 in any order who knows, then Bradford, Hull KR, Hull FC, Cas and Wakey who can beat anyone on theyre day. Going to be the most competitive SL yet IMO. Great for the game of rugby League. I agree with how people go from 1 extreme to the other. We went from going unbeaten all year to going to finish 7th with a decent cup run within 40 mins
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Were definatly a good side but were far from brilliant, theres Leeds Saints Wire Us Huddersfield who i think will be the top 5 in any order who knows, then Bradford, Hull KR, Hull FC, Cas and Wakey who can beat anyone on theyre day. Going to be the most competitive SL yet IMO. Great for the game of rugby League. I agree with how people go from 1 extreme to the other. We went from going unbeaten all year to going to finish 7th with a decent cup run within 40 mins
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Thats the way it is with some Wigan fans and always have been.
If we win on Friday against Hull the Treble will be back on and some will be discussing where we should play the World Club Challenge next season.
If we lose we may aswell pack up for the season and start planning for 2011.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Were definatly a good side but were far from brilliant, theres Leeds Saints Wire Us Huddersfield who i think will be the top 5 in any order who knows, then Bradford, Hull KR, Hull FC, Cas and Wakey who can beat anyone on theyre day. Going to be the most competitive SL yet IMO. Great for the game of rugby League. I agree with how people go from 1 extreme to the other. We went from going unbeaten all year to going to finish 7th with a decent cup run within 40 mins
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The bit in bold is why I think our win over Warrington will be crucial come the end of the season.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Thats the way it is with some Wigan fans and always have been.
If we win on Friday against Hull the Treble will be back on and some will be discussing where we should play the World Club Challenge next season.
If we lose we may aswell pack up for the season and start planning for 2011.'"
Nah, if you lose it'll be another wakeup call...a blessing in disguise!
In 2006 you had an enormous amount of blessings!
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Nah, if you lose it'll be another wakeup call...a blessing in disguise!
In 2006 you had an enormous amount of blessings!'"
Mate, you're fooling no-one. You're only trolling so please use the thread provided.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Mate, you're fooling no-one. You're only trolling so please use the thread provided.'"
He's not even an entertaining one.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Mate, you're fooling no-one. You're only trolling so please use the thread provided.'"
what just because i don't agree it was a blessing in disguise im trolling?
get a grip, im stating my opinion and the comment above was light hearted. Geez.
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| Quote ="back to back to back"what just because i don't agree it was a blessing in disguise im trolling?
get a grip, im stating my opinion and the comment above was light hearted. Geez.'"
No your not - your all over the place, where have you been the last few weeks when we have been winning? Nowhere to be seen on here, no doubt you will disappear again if we win next week
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