I think D.W. put the £250k on a long shot at Haydock Park to make the money for Noble and Fielden

yes but contract is up at the end of next season.

How old is he and what position does he play jon.

He is 18 now i think maybe still 17 and plays centre in union although in league i think he played at loose, never saw him in league just seen him on occasion in union, i believe he is the youngest player ever to play in the Guinness Premiership.

We've had an underpowered front row for years but a very decent back row.
For most of the game yesterday Bailey was off and our whole back row was absent. Lockers, Hock & Bailey. That's why our pack was over run.
On the reverse, what a great set of 3/4 and halves we have.
From early on our centres had the beating their opposites. Carmont, from a standing start stepped Menzies and only a few minutes later Gleeson did the same to Nero.
The more Sam & Tommy play together the better they get.
As we've all been saying, including IL, we need at least one quality prop and preferably a prop/2nd row as well.
IL & BN have been putting together a very decent squad. Not many positions to improve now so a real big effort is needed to bring in the right man. A quality prop who is an enforcer is needed. With every injury our pack gets younger so we need a "Pongia" type prop who's reputation precedes them and like "Q" lets the opposition know his reputation was earned.

Wonder if his Uncle could tempt him to Wigan

Quote ="jonh"He is 18 now i think maybe still 17 and plays centre in union although in league i think he played at loose, never saw him in league just seen him on occasion in union, i believe he is the youngest player ever to play in the Guinness Premiership.'" Quote Owen Farrell is a rugby union player (born 21 September 1991) currently playing for Guinness Premiership side Saracens. He is the son of Andy Farrell. His primary position is centre. He is currently the youngest ever player to appear in English professional rugby after playing for Saracens 11 days after his 17th birthday, in a 26-17 home defeat against Llanelli Scarletts in the EDF Energy Cup on 5 October 2008.'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Farrell

Quote ="jonh"He is 18 now i think maybe still 17 and plays centre in union although in league i think he played at loose, never saw him in league just seen him on occasion in union, i believe he is the youngest player ever to play in the Guinness Premiership.'" Quote Owen Farrell is a rugby union player (born 21 September 1991) currently playing for Guinness Premiership side Saracens. He is the son of Andy Farrell. His primary position is centre. He is currently the youngest ever player to appear in English professional rugby after playing for Saracens 11 days after his 17th birthday, in a 26-17 home defeat against Llanelli Scarletts in the EDF Energy Cup on 5 October 2008.'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Farrell

Reading the bottom paragraph of that link, it look's like the guy doesn't take any crap from no one.

Steady on. At this rate you'll be arranging a two year extension to BN's contract!!
Saying that, if he wins the CC and the Grand Final, who would want rid?

olol

It was something like that. Certainly for his age group. Very highly rated.

I hope the Bradford match demonstrated why we should not re-sign Andy Coley and Phil Bailey (More so Coley than Bailey).

We need to improve in this area not remain 'consistent'

Well just watching the highlights on the superleague website and I know it's a given but we should get rid of Fielden he's dominated in every tackle, as for Coley your right if we want to move forward then we have to replace him with someone better, and that's they key someone better not just as good. Although what might get Coley a new deal is the fact that not many good props are available, yesterdays game we were under pressure so much in the second half because we didn't have the big frontrowers to get us out of are danger zone, and as for Bailey he can go waste of a quota spot and no doubt he's on a large salary.

We need additions to the squad, not replacements.

According to one respected member of this board and sources of mine that have since confirmed it, we may well have signed one very good frontrower. But I believe we need at least two quality additions to the forward pack with no departures in this area.

Would that be for the remainder of this season or for next year.

I,d be happy with either if it is a quality player.

Laughing out loud at the high estimation Wigan fans place on Owen Farrell only makes you look an even bigger plonker than the rest of your posts put together, which, though you've only managed 48 so far, actually takes some doing.

For 2010.

Cheers , hope you are correct.

UK or NRL based?

I'd keep Coley but not Bailey tbh.

I think we need to keep hold of Coley because he's solid and you know what your going to get from him. If we let him go and then signed another Fielden who was having a nightmare we'd look in very poor shape.

Keep Coley to have the option of playing him second row and using a huge pack against the bigger teams and bring in at least 1 if not 2 props.

sod that, give us a name!

Billy Boston now thats a name

not quite what we are looking for at prop though

Whatever happens regarding Bailey one thing the club should not do IMO is just release Bailey and not replace him.

We have a very young squad and in particular a very young but promising set of forwards. I think it is crucial for their development that they have experienced professionals around them to look up to and to take some of the weight off their shoulders so they can show what they can really do. We saw with Lee Mossop on Sunday how he struggled playing a big, touch and experienced Bradford pack alongside a very young Wigan pack. Joel Tomkins (22) Harrison Hansen (23). I don't think we can afford to lose Phil Bailey and Gareth Hock - and just have Sean O'loughlin with young kids. Saints are so successful in bringing youngsters through because they have a good environment and the right squad to do it. We have seen the results they have had and we need to do the same.

I don't think we should re-sign Bailey I think we should replace him though with someone with experience (which Bailey has) but of better quality. Bailey is just a solid player, which is not a bad thing but from an overseas player (even though he will come off the quota) you expect better and I believe he is one of our top earners. Six figure salary I have heard from people on this board. He is not worth that.

David Kidwell and Frank Puletua are both off contract and would be ideal. They wont come cheap but with Phil Bailey's and Gareth Hock's wages we should be more than capable of being able to afford one of these players while being able to re-sign our best youngsters. Now I understand it is really easy to just throw names into the hat and there is much more to it bringing one of those players over. Visa being granted, past injures, if they want to come over, will they settle etc etc

So if for whatever reason we can't bring in anyone this season then we can't just release Bailey and go with Mossop, Tomkins, Hansen and Lockers for me. We need an experienced head to take some of the pressure off the young lads. So only on an one year extension and (if rumours are true) a reduced salary would I re-sign Bailey. We are better off with Phil Bailey for a season, if we can't find a replacement than releasing him and not finding a replacement and just throw all the kids in with a young pack.