Sent off, not a chance, it was no worse than a certain kick a few weeks back.

IT was a pen and nothing more.

Look mate, I'm a Rovers fan so am a neutral but Graham should have gone - it was a an absolute disgrace and he should get a ban for deliberately (and successfully) injuring an opposition player. This is unacceptable and anyone who agrees otherwise is either stupid, blinkered or both.

6 minutes, 48 seconds to be exact.

Gobe.

Second incident after re-watching the game.


2nd half, unsure of the timing. Prekky takes in the ball and Graham ends up on his back with his legs tangled in the ruck. This guy should play Union, he just kicks Prekky twice in the shoulder.

One for the dart boards, fat scouse tncu.

I'm not here to defend it but just to let you know that the incident and his injury will be completely unrelated. If you refer to 'Pat out for 6 months' the reasons are in that thread. Shame he'll miss the WCC, congratulations on the win.

Not on purpose at all but certainly the cause of the injury IMO! Look at the angle he stands on it, he is a heavy man.

Well ginger b@stard stood on Pats right ankle and it was his right leg that was strapped up, not being a medical person but i'd say there's a good chance it had something to do with it.

he's a cheating soft stains pr1ck so nothing will be done and he'll get away with it and 3 games would be ridiculous anyway should be 5 or 6 is the only way this sort of thing is going to be stopped. its not the first time a Wigan player has had their leg trod on in an attempt to injure them the RFL need to get a grip before it gets out of hand

May need sorting out the same way kicking out does

Soft? Have a word with yourself there isn't a Rugby League player around who is soft.

There are RL players who are all mouth and have never backed it up. Typical scouser.

Just like we all said at the time JT should of been banned. Two wrongs dont make a right. Add all Grahams antics to the dissent towards the ref and he really is bringing the sport into disrepute.

Didn't he kick a few goals after "STAMP" ?

Not sure he'd be able to kick goals with a serious injury.

Will be a shame if he is to miss the world club challenge as he has been very very good for wigan this year and was correct choice for man of steel.

People are saying it contrubuted towards the injury not caused it.

Never backed it up? He's been the top Metre maker in the League for the last 3 years, thus doing his job as a prop forward. I'd say that's pretty much backing it up.

Well, i'd say one of the jobs as a prop forward is to mix it from time to time, but he never has. Typical scouse softcock.

Its all well and good making all those meters but Saints have now lost 3 finals in a row. Last night he got truly owned by the Wigan props.

Missing persons report.

A Mr James Graham, Last seen inside Stuart Fieldens pocket.

being serious, Graham was dissapointing last night. I kept telling the people around me that Graham would do something to change the game.

>ahem<

4.

Lets not be silly here but as pat or the wigan club said the james graham "stamp" caused the injury ?

Ive not seen it but seems silly that the stamp caused the injury yet he played for good spell after and kicked a few goals.

If he did stamp on him then he should be banned, simple as that.

Wigan did take jammer out of the game and pretty obvious wigan pack went out to target graham.

Even the die hard wigan fans can't deny he is a top class prop and the best we have in this country.

agreed

I think people slightly over estimate Grahams ability. His work rate and effort no one can fault on. On his day he can make good yards and off load like a prop should be able to do. However last night Wigans tactics were superb and they stopped Graham doing what he does best.

IMO for Graham to become an even better player he needs to learn how to run proper angles more and above all not get so wound up when things don't go his way. Instead of spitting the dummy he needs to concentrate on what he does best and work out how he can break the line or create a chance. If he does that then he can become an even better player. Whether he will be as good as Kevin Ward who is the best prop I have seen play rugby league during my lifetime is questionable.

It doesn't help that he continually is expected to carry the Saints pack and that is something that will become an even bigger burden unless the way Saints play is changed.

He's got a lot of stamina and isn't scared of taking the ball in.

However, I don't see him as a massive threat with the ball in hand.

Although not the finest example of a prop forward, Feka knocks spots off Graham in that respect.

And this bit by Phil-P is "nail on head" time.

"IMO for Graham to become an even better player he needs to learn how to run proper angles more and above all not get so wound up when things don't go his way"

For the type of prop graham is, he is the best, without doubt.

You can't compare feka and jammer, feka is a impact prop that comes on and does damage in short spells. Jammer does the hard yards that lay the platform for the impact players like feka.

No doubt feka couldn't do what jammer does, they are not the same style prop.

Jammer is a coley tyle prop and to be honest coley ain't in the same league as jammer but i think both fielden and coley have been very good for wigan thuis year.