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| Quote ="WireWireWire"WHICH. IS. WHY. YOU. GOT. A. PENALTY. AS. I. STATED. ALREADY.
Christ.'"
Is it only me who's imagining him shouting and typing it furiously into his keyboard?
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Played the game for a good 8 or 9 years.
If he'd looked at him and punted him in the head then sure, fine, send him to the sin bin, but because O'Loughlin was lying all over him obstructing his view, he was just flailing and ACCIDENTALLY caught Tomkins in the head, hence the penalty, because it was an ACCIDENT.'"
I think the RFL might take a different view this week.
Also, you can't really know the rules can you as you write this;
[i"If he'd looked at him and punted him in the head then sure, fine, send him to the sin bin".[/i
Not a red card ?
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"I think the RFL might take a different view this week.
Also, you can't really know the rules can you as you write this;
[i"If he'd looked at him and punted him in the head then sure, fine, send him to the sin bin".[/i
Not a red card ?'"
Of course it'd be a red card, I was just saying sin bin for the sake of it cause that's what we were debating over.
Really? I don't think they will. It was quite clearly an accident. He was penalized, end of. No other action will come of it IMO.
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| referees in SL in this day an age need to be more professional. To much inconsistent in the game. For me the refs spoil a decent game,as for the touch judge's well you may aswell not bother.
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| Quote ="terryb"We have seen, etc'"
A couple of points
1. The penalty count with ten or so minutes to go in the game was even, don't know what it was at full time but I'd guess it was still evens - it was high I will grant you that, but both teams were penalised equally - you may have missed the ones that gifted you all of your points.
2. I too like to see teams play hard but fair and if your team have genuinely dropped off that standard in recent weeks then they should do something about it, but please rid yourself of the belief that anything that is mentioned on the Sky Sports commentary is rushed to Red Hall and written into law, for it is not, if it were so then your team would already be the possessors of a Grand Final ring each - Phil Clarke would have made it so.
I do hope that it was just beer that was feeding your paranoia last night...
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| Quote ="mikej"Take this from a "wire" fan then. The kickout was wrong and was penalised. It wasnt deliberate contact and hence why no further action necessary. Counted Sam Tomkins doing the same thing on 3 or 4 occasions but as he didnt make contact with anything (other than the back of his own players head...lol) than no further comment has been made of it.
As far as "smashing 'em", I think that Nat brown called for his players to do the same thing....result.... they have got their s kicked every game since.!'"
Didn't Nathan say that after Lockers "accidently" knocked out Robinson but stayed on the pitch at Murryfield. What about that dangerous tackle on Clinton in Wrexham last week? Just waiting for somebody on here to blame Noble for Wigan slow start and lack of fitness. Leeds nicked it, end off. Felt sorry for Pat Richards, he didn't deserve that result.
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| Quote ="terryb"
My wife is very upset she can't take losing and is in bed.'"
Do you need us to tell you what to do next on this one???
Quote ="terryb"I send very few of these but know from ex colleagues the unease with the draw process, can anyone tell me when Wigan were last drawn at home against Leeds or Saints in the Challenge Cup and how many times since they have been drawn away. It is called the "hot ball syndrome"?'"
I can not believe you are moaning about something that is totally randomly picked.....Let me guess they make the balls feel different so they know which order to pick them in, just to get at the mighty Wigan?
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"icon_lol.gif
Excuses, excuses. If your players didn't lie on the tackled player for so long with your delaying tactics then Senior wouldn't have had to kick out and cop Tomkins in the head.'"
Newsflash - chav Wire fan thinks it's okay to kick someone in the eye, and then tries to hide behind legalities when someone objects.
Were you born a cliche, or did you learn it in the year you've been watching Warrington?
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"No different to how most Wigan fans were typing after Smith went over with a minute or so to go
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Naa mate. Most of us were at the game.
Also, WireWireWire Senior
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| Quote ="terryb"We have seen from the last few weeks our guys get sin binned and others just told off. This was the case at Huddersfield and also today. Peacock could commit anything and as he is who he is always gets away with it, same with Senior, we lose a man and he carries on after kicking his head.
As we are out of the cup I just hope we can get get impartial decisions (although difficult with Cummings in charge).
My tactics now would be to do what we did at the start of the season and really get stuck into them i.e. SMASH THEM and play rugby, we were the only ones today that tried to play as Leeds had no way of getting forward unless they got a penalty. We made some stupid attacking errors but at least we went for them.
I just hope the atmosphere at the DW is intense and we get into anybody who opposes us as we will not get any help from the officials.
I may be wrong and no doubt many will tell me so but after 10/12 rounds our penalty count was low as was our yellow cards but look what has happened in the last few rounds (is this since the Sky """"""""experts""""""" (excluding Paul Cullen) decided that they didn't like us being top of the league and we should not be allowed to tackle.
My wife is very upset she can't take losing and is in bed, but I played sport for 25 years or so and it happens. My issue is too many matches are decided by officials and I don't necessarily mean today, it is not the big decisions but those that change the flow of the game. The comments of commentators who today were biased towards Leeds which surprised me especially as supposedly we were the only ones doing forward passes according to Dave Woods and John Kear. John just wanted to put on a Blue and Yellow shirt. I of course remember how he left Wigan under a cloud but is it Wigan or Wakefield that he would rather be and how he could say Woods had a red and white shirt on just shows the white rose attitude. That is why the "Loyal Toast for Lancashire is "The Queen The Duke of Lancaster" and this will remain until a male heir reigns.
I just want objective reporting but this will never happen as long as Red Hall is the base, I would suggest to anyone in the area to try to visit this establishment, it is only slightly less accessible than Downing Street.
I send very few of these but know from ex colleagues the unease with the draw process, can anyone tell me when Wigan were last drawn at home against Leeds or Saints in the Challenge Cup and how many times since they have been drawn away. It is called the "hot ball syndrome"?'"
Spot on
There is an anti Wigan alliance running our game. The establishment in our game is corrupt.
They hoped the salary cap would stop us. Afraid it now won't they've turned to Cummings and his willing disciples, Bentham, Silverwood & Alibert.
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| To be fair its half a dozen of one and 6 of the other. A man of Seniors experience should have known better than to kick out like that.
Its the Peacock one for me that was blatant hits Sam high then has another swing with intent but all water under the bridge now sure the RFL will give them both a warning letter on the other hand Farrell will probably get a 1 match ban.
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| and where does the Coley incident fit into all this ranting....oops sorry...debate.
also its only a matter of time til young Tomkins (S) catches someone in the head...try watching with more than one eye open for a bit
hope your condemnation will be consistent.
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"and where does the Coley incident fit into all this ranting....oops sorry...debate.
also its only a matter of time til young Tomkins (S) catches someone in the head...try watching with more than one eye open for a bit
hope your condemnation will be consistent.
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It he went in with intent like Mr Peacock did i would have expected a Red and at least a 2 match ban.
Last year when he kicked out and just missed the player Bridge it was i expected him to be in the bin then but Silverwood just gave him a ticking off and he got a warning letter from the RFL.
And we all know about Mr Coley and his penalty's its time the club took a long look at him and tried to get him to stop it either with being dropped or club fines.
Kicking out in the tackle is getting to common these days and its only a matter of time before someone is badly hurt.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Kicking out is Illegal. End of.
Most players when trying to get a penalty when being lied on just try to get up to make a point, not lash their legs out 6 feet in the air and end up kicking someone in the face, if you think otherwise then your as stupid as senior is'"
WOW
So Senior is on his back and he kicks 6 feet in the air meaning his legs are 6 feet long. So add of what 3 feet in torso length, then neck and head a further foot. Well that tots up to make Keith 10 feet tall. christ on a bike
It was a close game and neither team deserved to lose but in knock out rugby one of us had to be unlucky. A few missed tackles and tired bodies was the deciding factor. Now I hate O'Loughlin with a passion, but his reaction to Smithys try was what you want to see in your team, the lad was well and truly gutted.
As for sweets gate, that was uncalled for. These boxes of sweets at Headingley aren't cheap, to wang them at the pitch is madness. Also whoever did wang them clearly cant play rugby as they totally missed the mass of Leeds players and copped the linesman on the ear
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Lets say 5ft tall considering he was hunched in the process of getting up, but yes, it was O'loughlins fault, if O'loughlin wasn't on Senior, then he would have been up and playing the ball as opposed to kicking out trying to get up.'"
So what your saying is if a Warrington player got kicked in the same circumstances as yesterday there wouldn't be a single complaint from the wire fans because it was an ACCIDENT!! as you put it?? I think not.
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| Quote ="Codhead13"So what your saying is if a Warrington player got kicked in the same circumstances as yesterday there wouldn't be a single complaint from the wire fans because it was an ACCIDENT!! as you put it?? I think not.'"
As long as the penalty was given...end of !
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| Quote ="WireWireWire"Go on then, do tell me what's so stupid about it? [uYou're team was lying on, Senior then got frustrated because he was trying to get up and play the ball[/u. He then started kicking out probably to get the ref to give him a penalty for the lying on, in the act he caught Tomkins in the head accidentally. End of.'"
Less than 2 seconds from Senior Hitting the ground to him kicking out and catching Joel. Both he and O'Loughlin are off Senior at this point and clearing the ruck.
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Spot on
There is an anti Wigan alliance running our game. The establishment in our game is corrupt.
They hoped the salary cap would stop us. Afraid it now won't they've turned to Cummings and his willing disciples, Bentham, Silverwood & Alibert.'"
Brilliant, the Conspiracy theories some of you lot come out with would make feature films.
So far this season alone, Eddie and Stevo, Dave Woods, Andy Wilson, John Kear, All the Referees, the RFL and I'm pretty sure the Democratic Republic of Congo all hate you and do everything to stop you winning.
You lost, it happens. Get on with it and stop moaning.
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| Quote ="JLM23"Brilliant, the Conspiracy theories some of you lot come out with would make feature films.
So far this season alone, Eddie and Stevo, Dave Woods, Andy Wilson, John Kear, All the Referees, the RFL and I'm pretty sure the Democratic Republic of Congo all hate you and do everything to stop you winning.
You lost, it happens. Get on with it and stop moaning.'"
Whilst agreeing in general with your comment I have one question for you.
What's it got to do with you?
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Spot on
There is an anti Wigan alliance running our game. The establishment in our game is corrupt.
They hoped the salary cap would stop us. Afraid it now won't they've turned to Cummings and his willing disciples, Bentham, Silverwood & Alibert.'"
Martin Gleeson missed a tackle, you lost. Don't be such a big girls blouse.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Whilst agreeing in general with your comment I have one question for you.
What's it got to do with you?
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Not a lot really. Just though I'd give some advice on how to deal with it, as apparently it's only us scousers who whinge
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| Quote ="mikej"As long as the penalty was given...end of !'"
Yeah ok then
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| Everyone hates Wigan, we are still the most successful team in British RL history and thats without a trophy for 8 years. Your either a Wigan supporter or you hate them. That why everyone is on Cherry and White.
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