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| Quote ="Batesy"Correct me if I'm wrong but we went to St Helens in the Challenge cup a bit ago. This was the team:
Gleeson (wigan), Dallas, Aspinwall (wigan), Wild (wigan), Carney, Brown (wigan), Moran, Seu Seu, Newton (wigan), Sculthorpe (lWigan), Allen (not sure), Tickle(wigan), Beswick (wigan).
Replacements: Hansen, Godwin (wigan), Guisset, Hargreaves (wigan).
Right, so theres 10 wigan lads out of 17. How did that go? I was there to watch that game, I'm not saying the score, because that actaully does make me want to be sick, rather than saying it for effect.
If you want a clue, google Saints vs Wigan, Challenge cup, June 2005
I want a SUCCESSFUL WIGAN, and yes, it would be great if every player was born and bread wigan, and wouldn't leave the side for love nor money, as well as being a clone of Farrell, Offiah or Hanley but it isn't going to happen. I would much rather sit through a win agianst Saint helens with a team full of Icelandish players than sit through that crock of poop agian, don't know if you went or not, but I did, and I stayed 'til the end, it was the worst rugby performance I've ever seen.'"
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| Quote ="Batesy"Correct me if I'm wrong but we went to St Helens in the Challenge cup a bit ago. This was the team:
Gleeson (wigan), Dallas, Aspinwall (wigan), Wild (wigan), Carney, Brown (wigan), Moran, Seu Seu, Newton (wigan), Sculthorpe (lWigan), Allen (not sure), Tickle(wigan), Beswick (wigan).
Replacements: Hansen, Godwin (wigan), Guisset, Hargreaves (wigan).
Right, so theres 10 wigan lads out of 17. How did that go? I was there to watch that game, I'm not saying the score, because that actaully does make me want to be sick, rather than saying it for effect.
If you want a clue, google Saints vs Wigan, Challenge cup, June 2005
I want a SUCCESSFUL WIGAN, and yes, it would be great if every player was born and bread wigan, and wouldn't leave the side for love nor money, as well as being a clone of Farrell, Offiah or Hanley but it isn't going to happen. I would much rather sit through a win agianst Saint helens with a team full of Icelandish players than sit through that crock of poop agian, don't know if you went or not, but I did, and I stayed 'til the end, it was the worst rugby performance I've ever seen.'"
the sculthorpes are from oldam IIRC, but your point is about right. The best players for your side, not the best local players |
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| Quote ="The Jolly Ginger Giant"Godwin is from cas and sculthorpe is from oldham'"
Corrected Sculthorpe, and I thought Wagga came through our academy? Only joking  Obviously Wagga came from cas  |
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| Quote ="Batesy"Corrected Sculthorpe, and I thought Wagga came through our academy?'"
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| Quote ="Batesy"Corrected Sculthorpe, and I thought Wagga came through our academy?'"
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Godwin's from Castleford I think
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| Quote ="Batesy"Correct me if I'm wrong but we went to St Helens in the Challenge cup a bit ago. This was the team:
Gleeson (wigan), Dallas, Aspinwall (wigan), Wild (wigan), Carney, Brown (wigan), Moran, Seu Seu, Newton (wigan), Sculthorpe (Oldham
 ), Allen (not sure), Tickle(wigan), Beswick (wigan).
Replacements: Hansen, Godwin, Guisset, Hargreaves (wigan).
Right, so theres 8 wigan lads out of 17. How did that go? I was there to watch that game, I'm not saying the score, because that actaully does make me want to be sick, rather than saying it for effect.
If you want a clue, google Saints vs Wigan, Challenge cup, June 2005
I want a SUCCESSFUL WIGAN, and yes, it would be great if every player was born and bread wigan, and wouldn't leave the side for love nor money, as well as being a clone of Farrell, Offiah or Hanley but it isn't going to happen. I would much rather sit through a win agianst Saint helens with a team full of Icelandish players than sit through that crock of poop agian, don't know if you went or not, but I did, and I stayed 'til the end, it was the worst rugby performance I've ever seen.'"
What about this challenge cup winning squad?
Radlinski (Wigan)
Dallas (Aus)
Ainscough (Aus)
Connolly (St Helens)
Johnson (Wigan)
O'Neill (Aus)
Lam (PNG)
O'Connor (Widnes)
Newton (from Wigan but came through the ranks at Leeds)
Smith (NZ)
Cassidy (Wigan)
Furner (Aus)
Farrell (Wigan)
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley":3vtn67njAnd that's the difference right there.
Wigan as a club, and as a central point for the community means nothing to people like you.
How on Earth can it be OUR club if it is packed with Australians, Mongolians or Chinamen?
To be honest, that's a pathetic, win at all costs attitude that has lead us to having a team that has no foothold left in the hearts and minds of local people.
To hear someone say that they don't care if local players play for the club makes me want to be sick.'" who get that figure?
Would it make a difference to you if it was 9 wigan lads + 8 aussies or if it was 9 wigan lads + 8 uk players?
And as someone has mentioned, the last time we tried to have a teamfull of youngsters we went to saints with a team barely good enough for NL1, but because of people like you some people supposedly "wouldnt mind" losing by the score that we did just because it was a teamful of wiganers. |
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I would love to see:
Richards
Roberts Gleeson Carmont Ainscough
Phelps Smith
Fielden Riddell Coley
Hansen Bailey
Joel
Farrell Feka Leuluai Prescott
but think Noble will go with the 'safe option' (although i think the team above would do us no harm) of:
Phelps
Roberts Gleeson Carmont Richards
Smith Leuluai
Fielden Riddell Coley
Hansen Bailey
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He'll keep it as strong and experienced as he can imo.
I'd go-
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Ainscough(i think we can afford to give him a run out here)
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Carmont
Richards
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Leuluai
Prescott
Riddell
Coley
Hansen
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J Tomkins
subs
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Fielden
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McIlorum
that should be more then enough to beat the Celtics if we go there with the right attitude.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"Godwin's from Castleford I think'"
Is Godwin from cas? |
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Can someone please check where Godwin is from..
Was it Cas or not?
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| Quote ="Parsifal"Can someone please check where Godwin is from..
Was it Cas or not?'"
Godwin was signed from Cas |
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Where's Godwin from?
Who's LMS?
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| Quote ="Pemps"Where's Godwin from?
Who's LMS?'"
Godwin is from Pontefract, West Yorkshire,
And LMS as far as i know is London Midland and Scottish railways |
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| Quote ="Pemps"Where's Godwin from?
Who's LMS?'"
Im not sure on either of the above.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Im not sure on either of the above.
Whats the entrance music again at Wigan?'"
Bring in the Clowns i think  |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We could go back to having young players like Wild, Brown, Aspinwall, Hodgson, Robinson etc in the team, but we would be playing Leigh, Widnes, Barrow etc.quote="
All playing for a team currently in the top 4 and cup Semi Final
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| Quote ="Finfin"Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We could go back to having young players like Wild, Brown, Aspinwall, Hodgson, Robinson etc in the team, but we would be playing Leigh, Widnes, Barrow etc.quote="
All playing for a team currently in the top 4 and cup Semi Final'" '"
But they weren't good enough during their time at Wigan, with the possible exception of Wild. I think Phil Clarke commented on something similar during the Huddersfield game this weekend. He mentioned the fact that Mossop couldn't get in Wigan's team but could get in Huddersfield's.
Now obviously Huddersfield are playing well but when I look at their team there's very few players I'd swap, like for like, with the Wigan team. The question needs to be asked, why are they fourth and we're 8th/9th? Is it purely down to coaching or am I dillusional about the quality of Wigan's players? |
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"And that's the difference right there.
Wigan as a club, and as a central point for the community means nothing to people like you.
How on Earth can it be OUR club if it is packed with Australians, Mongolians or Chinamen?
To be honest, that's a pathetic, win at all costs attitude that has lead us to having a team that has no foothold left in the hearts and minds of local people.
To hear someone say that they don't care if local players play for the club makes me want to be sick.'"
If this team wins with 9 foreigners then so be it, our selected English lads are out of town for this one, so we'll pick our best 17 if they're English, Australian or from Mars. |
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| Quote ="Noble's Barmy Army"If this team wins with 9 foreigners then so be it, our selected English lads are out of town for this one, so we'll pick our best 17 if they're English, Australian or from Mars.'"
Is that where Godwin is from? I cant see it posted anywhere |
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| Quote ="Pemps"Now obviously Huddersfield are playing well but when I look at their team there's very few players I'd swap, like for like, with the Wigan team. The question needs to be asked, why are they fourth and we're 8th/9th? Is it purely down to coaching or am I dillusional about the quality of Wigan's players?'"
Bit of both IMO, but more the former than the latter - there is no question that they are a very well coached team under Brown. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We could go back to having young players like Wild, Brown, Aspinwall, Hodgson, Robinson etc in the team, but we would be playing Leigh, Widnes, Barrow etc.
It doesn't matter where the players come from. I'd love 17 Wigan lads but it isn't going to happen because they are simply not good enough in total.
I don't care if we win the cup or Superleague with17 St. Helens born players, 17 Chinese, 17 Africans or some mixture if they are the best available at that time.'"
The selection issue for this game ought not to be about foreign players or not. At the moment we have a certain number of foreign players in the 1st team squad who are our senior players so they are going to get games. We will see how Wigan intend to proceed on this depending on what happens to Bailey and Phelps and who is recruited for 2010.
The selection issue for Celtic for me puts the spotlight right back on Noble and how he deals with the absence of three players.
He can do one of two things. Revert to how he selected teams in 2007 and 2008 which was to ignore the junior players and play his favourites even if that was out of position when we faced lowly opposition. In other words pass up the chance to give younger players experience against the weaker teams.
Or he could introduce some younger players.
There is no way Noble or anyone else should be worried about securing a win v a team with Celtics record. This isn't arrogance it's common sense in that are are by far the worst team in the league.
So if Noble retains his 2007/2008 selection policy against Celtic then I seriously hope we have a new coach next season.
Unfortunately to use Nobles own words I suspect he will "cobble together" a side. I hope I am pleasantly surprised and proven wrong but I aint holding my breath.
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