Oops, I forgot about Briscoe!

Wigan shouldn't of let him go, but that's for another topic I suppose!

Dont have any but just what ive heard.

I'd venture to suggest you didn't come into this argument very well prepared.

wasnt an argument, was just making a point

Rotten sod! Fishing in the swamp? Haven't you anything better to do in your retirement?

With no facts to back it up, which you admit to immediately?

I'd either chip into the Wellens chat, or give it a rest.

Well you weren't very well prepared to make a point then

No comment

Radders was good but overrated. No Stevie Hampson or Gary Jack or Billy Slater for example.

Wellens is slowly getting worse. Briscoe is better (especially for nearly killing bailey last week

) Lee bloody Smith is as good as Wellens thesedays!

Which shows how far standards have dropped in SL.


p.s. Clint Greenshields is the best fullback in SL ( IMO ).

Corrected. Sad but true. Then again we can't really talk have the worst official fullback in SL.

Radders>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All current SL

Webb all the way, oh i forgot.. Mathers.

Slightly off topic, but didn't Nobby comment on how Roberts could also play at 6? Is this something we'll be seeing now Pat's back?

Opinions?

Greenshields is more of a turnstyle than Mathers.



Reardon used to be the best imo, but now I'd say it's either Webb or Hodgson.

That being the word everyone associates with Wellens.

Only second to Brent Webb IMO.

Nah, quite liked Roberts at Full Back. Leaves Richards to catch Smith's bombs on the wing whilst Sam plays stand off.

This option plus Lockers or even Mathers at 6 is sadly more likely than Sam Tompkins getting a chance

or you spelling Tomkins Tompkins Tapkins right

You must be joking !!!

Webb and/or Hodgson are not better tacklers than Greenshields.

Quote ="twosevenzero"You must be joking !!! Webb and/or Hodgson are not better tacklers than Greenshields.'" We all know how much Rogues likes his Stats. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009 Greenshields is a turnstyle. Fact.

Quote ="twosevenzero"You must be joking !!! Webb and/or Hodgson are not better tacklers than Greenshields.'" We all know how much Rogues likes his Stats. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009 Greenshields is a turnstyle. Fact.

Quote ="RB"We all know how much Rogues likes his Stats. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009 Greenshields is a turnstyle. Fact. '" Half as many misses per game than Mathers this year though superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009

Quote ="RB"We all know how much Rogues likes his Stats. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009 Greenshields is a turnstyle. Fact. '" Half as many misses per game than Mathers this year though superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009

Quote ="RB"We all know how much Rogues likes his Stats. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009 Greenshields is a turnstyle. Fact. '" Hardly conclusive, more missed tackles but more appearances 27 to 20, tackles made 237 to 102, over double, clean breaks 23 to 7, t/busts 116 to 30, metres made 3770 to 1756, I know which one I'd choose, if they offered us a swop would you take it ?

Quote ="RB"We all know how much Rogues likes his Stats. superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2009 Greenshields is a turnstyle. Fact. '" Hardly conclusive, more missed tackles but more appearances 27 to 20, tackles made 237 to 102, over double, clean breaks 23 to 7, t/busts 116 to 30, metres made 3770 to 1756, I know which one I'd choose, if they offered us a swop would you take it ?

I quite rightly pointed out that Sam Tompkins will never get a chance. Now Sam Tomkins on the other hand....



Also, please ensure your posts are faultless from now on. I shall be watching....

IMO the problem with comparing FB is that most players specialise in being either an attacking or defensive FB and therefore people will always pick on the weaker factor in their game.

For me Radders is the best defensive FB for the last 15 years, worldwide and in either code, yet attack wise, as I once heard a flat capped wiganer say 'that lad radlinski cud't be't a wheelie bin'!!!

....Radders redeemed himself by being IMO one of the best support players in the league which brought him the majority of his tries, but still wasnt much special as an attacking player...and therefore probably brought about his critisism. Though that said I would always rather have a great defensive FB even if he couldnt attack.....after all your FB is akin to a goal keeper in soccer whos main job IMO is keeping the opposition out...not scoring and creating chances.

Even comparing rads to wellens is beyond a joke IMO, and thats not just my wigan bias....as has been pointed out multiple GB coaches thought so and wello never got a chance for GB when rads was fit.

Wello isnt even in the top 3 FBs in SL now in attack or defence (even without radlisk)i IMO.

Looking at the best FBs in super league I would say;

Top 5 Defensive SL Full Backs

1. Webb
2. Richards
3. Briscoe
4. Wellens
5. Tony

Top 5 Attacking Full Backs

1. Greenshields
2. Webb
3. Briscoe
4. Hodgson
5. Wellens

For me brent webb is clearly top....but wellens isnt even anywhere near either as an attacking or defensive FB. IMO he is nothing better than 5th best FB in the comp now