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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Leeds win grand finals DESPITE bailey..... not because of him.'"
He wouldnt have been picked 5 times to play in the grand final if this was the case would he. We would have either signed someone else, or play on of the other props we have.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"must be something in the yorkshire water.'"
If there is its probably the taste of a champions victory, but as I live in Sydney i wouldn't know
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| Quote ="21-12"Ryan Bailey is a very average prop forward playing a good side, and this has been the case for seasons, he does a job for you which is fair enough, but that doesnt make him a good player, there's 15+ prop forwards playing Super League all significantly better than him.'"
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| yea you're right.... he's brilliant..... I hope wire sign him for next season.
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| Quote ="21-12"Ryan Bailey is a very average prop forward playing a good side, and this has been the case for seasons, he does a job for you which is fair enough, but that doesnt make him a good player, there's 15+ prop forwards playing Super League all significantly better than him.'"
Maybe not 15, but there are a fair few better than him yes. But Bailey isnt a James Graham, nobody has pretend he is. Bailey is a rotation prop. He does the job of a rotation prop. His game fits perfectly with what you would want from a rotation prop. He certainly isnt the best or among the best props in the country, but is certainly among the best 3rd/4th rotation props in the country.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"yea you're right.... he's brilliant..... I hope wire sign him for next season.'"
He's a bit young and a bit british for Wire to be looking at him.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"He's a bit young and a bit british for Wire to be looking at him.'"
I wouldn't worry about it happening mate.... he wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 17
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"yea you're right.... he's brilliant..... I hope wire sign him for next season.'"
You might have a better chance of not cholking if you did!
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| Sorry wigan mods I will try to get your thread back on track again. I think lauaki is gonna have to turn things around in a big way to make your first 17.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"I wouldn't worry about it happening mate.... he wouldn't get anywhere near our starting 17'"
I have noticed your packs relative aversion to Grand Final winners.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Total Guff'"
Good reply. Nice one.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I have noticed your packs relative aversion to Grand Final winners.'"
Grand final participants would be a start.
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| Quote ="21-12"Good reply. Nice one.'"
TA told you how it is! That's why your post was guff. Where has anyone said bailey is the best meter maker of defensive prop in SL? Bailey is a important cog in a team that is good at winning championships.
What do you think Lauaki will bring to Wigan? I think he will struggle to get a game if you squad stays fit.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"What do you think Lauaki will bring to Wigan? I think he will struggle to get a game if you squad stays fit.'"
If we can get him fit and install the right mentality, he'll give us a new option like Lauatiti did for you, a new dimension, an attacking, running, skillful forward. Im convinced that unless Wigan see huge potential in him we wouldn't have signed him on a 3 year deal.
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| By May he will be a fans favourite and all the nay sayers will be all over him like he was the second coming, just like they have done with others over the years.
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| Quote ="21-12"If we can get him fit and install the right mentality, he'll give us a new option like Lauatiti did for you, a new dimension, an attacking, running, skillful forward. Im convinced that unless Wigan see huge potential in him we wouldn't have signed him on a 3 year deal.'"
Like Gareth Hock? I just don't see the need at all, we've got a strong running + offloading second rower who has problems with discipline, and he just happens to be a lot better than Lauaki anyway!
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"By May he will be a fans favourite and all the nay sayers will be all over him like he was the second coming, just like they have done with others over the years.'"
Mr Boogie one of my Fave posters who much did you enjoy the Rhinos GF victory!
I think your kids are better than what lauaki offers. can the pies get heart out of him? Only time will tell.
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| The fact that your coach actually went looking for this signing, would indicate to me that he will feature in the 17 right from the off.
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| Quote ="21-12"If we can get him fit and install the right mentality, he'll give us a new option like Lauatiti did for you, a new dimension, an attacking, running, skillful forward. Im convinced that unless Wigan see huge potential in him we wouldn't have signed him on a 3 year deal.'"
Lauaki hasnt, even at his best, been in the same league as Ali, even over the last couple of years when Injuries have clearly hampered him. I dont even think they are a similar type of player, Lauaki is closer to Hock than he is to Ali.
Lauaki will probably look good in comfortable wins for Wigan, but he will be a liability in close games. I cant see Lauaki being any more integral to Wigan than Cross was, or Moore will be to Leeds.
I cant imagine that Lauaki was 'a target', but like Moore at Leeds he is probably the best you could get, for the squad place you wanted, with the money you are willing to sacrifice on your SC.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Lauaki hasnt, even at his best, been in the same league as Ali, even over the last couple of years when Injuries have clearly hampered him. I dont even think they are a similar type of player, Lauaki is closer to Hock than he is to Ali.
Lauaki will probably look good in comfortable wins for Wigan, but he will be a liability in close games. I cant see Lauaki being any more integral to Wigan than Cross was, or Moore will be to Leeds.
I cant imagine that Lauaki was 'a target', but like Moore at Leeds he is probably the best you could get, for the squad place you wanted, with the money you are willing to sacrifice on your SC.'"
I just let that one go mate! It's totally lost on the pies that Ali is Leeds all time and SL's most successful over seas signing.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Lauaki hasnt, even at his best, been in the same league as Ali, even over the last couple of years when Injuries have clearly hampered him. I dont even think they are a similar type of player, Lauaki is closer to Hock than he is to Ali.
Lauaki will probably look good in comfortable wins for Wigan, but he will be a liability in close games. I cant see Lauaki being any more integral to Wigan than Cross was, or Moore will be to Leeds.
I cant imagine that Lauaki was 'a target', but like Moore at Leeds he is probably the best you could get, for the squad place you wanted, with the money you are willing to sacrifice on your SC.'"
I'd say that's pretty close to my feelings on the singing. Well all except that lauatiti is a great player anyway
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I just let that one go mate! It's totally lost on the pies that Ali is Leeds all time and SL's most successful over seas signing.'"
I can only assume from this assessment that you feel Sam Backo is the greatest overseas signing of all time.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I just let that one go mate! It's totally lost on the pies that Ali is Leeds all time and SL's most successful over seas signing.'"
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I just let that one go mate! It's totally lost on the pies that Ali is Leeds all time and SL's most successful over seas signing.'"
I said he would do a similar job for us that "Ali" did at Leeds, not once did I say he was better than him.
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| Quote ="jonh"I can only assume from this assessment that you feel Sam Backo is the greatest overseas signing of all time.'"
How do you work that out? Ali has been a great player in the NRL and SL for a decade. Slammin' Sam wasn't fit to lace Ali's boots in comparison.
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