sinfield--notice when tries scored against leeds he is the one that misses/takes wrong man or gets there too late---not every try but quite alot

Cooke & Sinfield, agreed. Mentions for Kevin Brown & Paul Wellens.

Oh, and Mathers, of course...

Ade Gardner?

I think the lads been very luckY to have played outside two of the best to of played in super League which have made him look alot better than he is

Danny McGuire - Can this guy actually do anything apart from run quick?
Thomas Bosc - Good kicking game, awful at everything else.
Chris Bridge - Nothing more than average, too crap to play at Stand Off, and average enough to play at centre. Just shows the lack of depth in our game in the backs if this guy is first choice centre for England. Shenton & Bridge against Inglis & Folau... are you joking?
Michael Shenton - Big, fast and nothing short of average. Poor man's Keith Senior.

I quite like Chris Bridge think he has developed into a good player recently and has been unlucky with injuries.

Richie Mathers is not overrated because nobody rates him.

Agree with sinfield. Not sure about shenton though. Good player.

Greg Eastwood, Richie Myler, Paul Wellens, Matt Orford.

Cooke is a wasted talent, one of the best long passers around in his Hull days.

Kevin Sinfield.

Good kicker though.

When he used to play against Saints for FC, he was always a real handful (around the 2005 time), but it doesn't seem like he's done anything since leaving.

Obviously when I hear players from my club mentioned in this light, I want to defend them, but I'll leave them to one side as I'm bound to be a little bias.

From a neutral point of view though, whenever I've seen Bridge (last season mainly) play centre he's looked really classy. He seems to be able to get on the outside of his man very well and has a good step back if needed. He's got the skills and seems robust in the tackle.

Luke Robinson - no wonder you got shut of him.
Jon Wilkin - cheap shot merchant with no talent as far as i can see.

John Wilkin......

Richie Myler too. A good young player who will improve but....mentioned in the same sentence as Tomkins and Eastmond

That made me smile!

every one is entitled to their opinion , maybe i was harsh to mention graham like that , but i do think he is over rated , lets see how good he is when he goes down under
ellis and burgess being the recent benchmarks

Richie Myler, never once made me stand up and think 'wow, this lads a good un'.

Same goes for Ben Harrison, all he does is try to big hit people on the blind side and fails every time.

He never failed against Stu Fielden, that was a cracker.

Agree about Myler. He is a poor mans Danny Mcguire (which takes some doing).

Wilkin is another. Utter rubbish and a media luvvie to boot.

Has won 4 Grand Finals and 5 Challenge Cups, picking up a Harry Sunderland and a Lance Todd along the way.

If only Wigan players were so bad in big games.

Good shout, MASSIVELY overrated.

Check him out compared to Paul Clough (who in my opinion is one of the most under-rated players in SL.)

Come on..even you could see hes not turned up in finals and internationals in the last two or three years.Class player on his day though.

The "Whos best? Myler, Tomkins or Eastmond?" talk from Wire fans is embarrassing.

It is.

Tony Smith's call a couple of weeks ago should put that one to bed once and for all.

A good call on Paul Clough - made as many yards for Saints as Harrison in two less games, made more tackle busts and missed 40 less tackles. Only 13 missed tackles in 24 games is an awesome statistic. Defensively he is right up there - you need that type of player in every successful team. Harrison isn't a bad player, but he seems to get more of the headlines because he plays amongst a pretty dominant and experienced pack, having the luxury of focusing on big hits and producing offloads rather than refining technique.

Both are still far behind Joel Tomkins though as an all round second rower - that lad has come on leaps and bounds this season, but still is underrated in my opinion when you compare the praise that more average second rowers like Westwood have been getting for less productivity (compare the stats for Westwood to J Tomkins - just no comparison).

No question - I see Clough and Harrison more as props than back rowers TBH.

Joel Tomkins is a brilliant talent, as good as his brother IMO in their respective positions. It's very difficult to be such a dominant player at Joel's age in his position.

Heres another one.The new love of Eddies life Jamie Foster..

Why do people insist on comparing stats, they mean bugger all and i am sure most of them are made up anyway. I stopped taking notice of them after the wigan v wire game. The day after that the stats read Gareth Carvell - Errors 1, which was funny as i saw him drop the ball 3 times at least.