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| Im cannot tell you how excited I am for next season!!!
Lets hope they can pull it off!!!
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"Interesting that SW says the players are 'glad it's happened', really do get the feeling we're going to see better performances next season.'"
Quote ="Madderzahatter"Thought it was quite telling the long pause Wane made before answering the question about 'the lack of passion about the joint...''"
Two very interesting bit's of that interview which I had forgotten about but are certainly very telling when heard.
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Thats what we been waiting to hear Waney for some time.
A right culture in any walk of life is hugely important..always something we have not seem to have for a long time.
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| Cant wait, IL top marks for appointing Wane second in command, tickets arived this morning will be renewing all three grandkids loving it.
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| Just watched SW's interview. Looks like he has been keen to kick some ass for along time. Nice to see some passion for a change. Me thinks that he wont stand any messing
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| Wow - have to say I feel more positive about everything all of a sudden - oh God how long is it until February!!!!!!! Well said Shaun I can't wait to see the 2010 Dynamic Duo in action.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Thats my season ticket being renewed, I cant wait for next season.
That guy has real pride in the jersey.'"
The Maguire and Wane appiontment has convinced me to get a season ticket and come back from uni to watch next season. Can't wait!!
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| This is the perfect combo of coaches.
We have it all
Maguire - Tactics, Technniques, Experience with top coaches
Wane - Passion, born winner, defence and forwards coach!
Love it!
Season ticket sales should hold up even without new signings!
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| Any fan watching that interview will be renewing their season tickets. Not seen an interview with a coach like that for a long time. There was no humpty dumptys and sticky brown paper in that speech was there?
Up for it is an understatement!!!
As those spaz eyed dolls on that corsa advert says..........
C'MON!!!!!
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| That put some fire in the belly!
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| What was wrong with the culture?
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| Quote ="CAM."What was wrong with the culture?
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Read Rads book mate.
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| Quote ="CAM."What was wrong with the culture?
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We won nowt, yet were always told the performances were excellent etc. Well they weren't or we would have been winning.
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| Quote ="CAM."What was wrong with the culture?
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Do you really need to ask?
Was it a winning culture why Noble was here?
Did we ever follow up big promising wins against Leeds or Saints with wins against so called lesser teams? How many times have we seen or thought this is the new dawn for Wigan RL after really good wins?
Was it a winning culture that led us to having the worst start to a league campaign in over 20 years?
Was the culture right in the prep before Hudds two seasons ago? Do you remember the whole ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt fiasco?
Was the culture right that has led us to 5 semi final defeats? How about the capitulation against Catalan in the 2007 semi final when we were red hot favourites?
What about early season loses to Hull FC away, Wakey & Cas at home & Celtic away? Or scrapping home in the last 10 against Barrow in the CC?
What about the Hock fiasco?
Radders talk in his book about the culture and mentality at Wigan and in Wane and Maguire we have two guys who have identified the problems and want to sort it out.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Do you really need to ask?
Was it a winning culture why Noble was here?'"
Noble is the most sucessful coach in SL. I think he knows how to create a 'winning culture' better than most.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Did we ever follow up big promising wins against Leeds or Saints with wins against so called lesser teams? How many times have we seen or thought this is the new dawn for Wigan RL after really good wins?'"
There are no 'lesser' teams in this league anymore. The teams you think are 'lesser' than others are infact at the same level as us.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Was it a winning culture that led us to having the worst start to a league campaign in over 20 years?'"
Bad preparation. Nothing to do with culture.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Was the culture right in the prep before Hudds two seasons ago? Do you remember the whole ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt fiasco?'"
Nothing to do with culture.
Quote ="thepriestman85"Was the culture right that has led us to 5 semi final defeats? How about the capitulation against Catalan in the 2007 semi final when we were red hot favourites?'"
We were outplayed. Nothing to do with culture.
Quote ="thepriestman85"What about early season loses to Hull FC away, Wakey & Cas at home & Celtic away? Or scrapping home in the last 10 against Barrow in the CC?'"
See above.
Quote ="thepriestman85"What about the Hock fiasco?'"
So that's one case in the last 3 years? Anything else?
Quote ="thepriestman85"Radders talk in his book about the culture and mentality at Wigan and in Wane and Maguire we have two guys who have identified the problems and want to sort it out.'"
So what are the problems? I haven't read the book and don't plan to either.
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| Quote ="CAM."Noble is the most sucessful coach in SL. I think he knows how to create a 'winning culture' better than most.'"
If he does it didn't show. There was a pervading mentality of nearly achieving something being enough that seemed to be accepted under his regime. Even fans in here quote reaching semi-finals as success these days.
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| Quote ="CAM."Noble is.................... '"
So are you happy with what appears to be the culture at the club?
For me the word culture means so much more than just history and tradition, it's shared values and belief and a willingness to do what ever it takes to succeed, and for me the right culture has been missing at Wigan.
If the team play poorly then they play poorly but to do it time after time and then show that they can play well for me is down to a poor culture at the club and all the things that a poor culture incorporates.
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| Quote ="CAM."Noble is the most sucessful coach in SL. I think he knows how to create a 'winning culture' better than most.'"
Maybe he does but the distinct lack of silverware mixed in with us failing 5 times at the last hurdle means its all in the past regards to his achievements.
Quote There are no 'lesser' teams in this league anymore. The teams you think are 'lesser' than others are infact at the same level as us.'"
Of course there isn’t? We are at the level of an injury hit Hull FC & Wakey as well as Celtic aren’t we? Put your head in the sand all you want the fact of the matter is many of the Wigan players thought they’d walk these games and they got stood up big time. I don’t mind losing every so often but the worst start in 20 years alludes to something far worse behind the scenes imo.
Quote Bad preparation. Nothing to do with culture. .'"
Bad prep is a major sign of a bad culture. You have to prepare for every game like it’s a final cause lets face it most of the teams in SL want to beat us—Leeds, Saints, Bradford & Wire all have history with us—Hudds & KR want to beat us cause of the ex Wigan players in there---We sent Cas down and they hate us.
Like I said you can either keep burying your head in the sand and pretend that Noble was some sort of RL coaching Messiah or you can look at the MANY times we’ve failed to prepare, been out enthused, lacked consistency and generally failed when it comes to the crunch time and realise that there were serious problems starting to pop up time and time again at Wigan under Noble.
The head coach has to discipline his players and keep them sharp for all the games in the season not just the Leeds ones.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"So are you happy with what appears to be the culture at the club?
For me the word culture means so much more than just history and tradition, it's shared values and belief and a willingness to do what ever it takes to succeed, and for me the right culture has been missing at Wigan.
If the team play poorly then they play poorly but to do it time after time and then show that they can play well for me is down to a poor culture at the club and all the things that a poor culture incorporates.'"
Well we disagree on what culture is then.
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| Quote ="CAM."Well we disagree on what culture is then.'"
What is it then?
It's easy to sit on the fence and give one line answers to everything without putting you own neck on the block.
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| I must admit I am re-inspired by all that's happening, and now will renew both of my season-tickets. Before the announcements over the last few days, I had lost the will to live, and had no intentions of renewing my seats. I thought I would just pick and choose the games I would attend next year and save some money and sanity.
I was just so bored and switched off by the inconsistent effort, the overpaid Aussies who were making mistakes that would see them immediately benched - if they were playing back in Australia, and the boring attacking tactics that Noble seemed to instil in the team.
It sounds like all of this is going to change. I really don't mind if we get beat (well actually I do!!!), so long as we play with heart and intelligence and the players live up to their capabilities. Also I am sick to death of all the off field antics I have heard about, and hope now the players will be expected to set a high standard to the public and especially the kids.
Bring on the new season!!!
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| if Wane was already involved with the coaching at the club - is he not partly responsible for the current culture within the club? If he knows now what needs to be done, why has he not done it previously.
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| Quote ="CAM."Noble is the most sucessful coach in SL. I think he knows how to create a 'winning culture' better than most.
There are no 'lesser' teams in this league anymore. The teams you think are 'lesser' than others are infact at the same level as us.
Bad preparation. Nothing to do with culture.
Nothing to do with culture.
We were outplayed. Nothing to do with culture.
See above.
So that's one case in the last 3 years? Anything else?
So what are the problems? I haven't read the book and don't plan to either.'"
I'm afraid these rather pat answers indicate to me that you don't actually understand what the Wigan culture is. Likewise, if you're not prepared to read the book that encapsulates it - Michael Maguire is reading it, by the way - then I doubt you'll ever know.
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| That interview is awesome and everything I wanted to hear. It literally made me smile.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"if Wane was already involved with the coaching at the club - is he not partly responsible for the current culture within the club? If he knows now what needs to be done, why has he not done it previously.'"
Results suggest he has done so with the section of the club for which he has responsibility.
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