Simple, he should have said if we win we get a week off and if we lose then tough titties we are in doing hard graft for the Hul Kr game.

Best quote in the link

There seems to be no discipline or desire within the club and it's soooo depressing.

When we played in Edinburgh against Saints i read on here that Riddell was in Ibiza

Who the f*ck told him he could go there? the lads had trained all week and had a game at the weekend and even though he was injured he should be there backing his mates up.

You can bet your bottom dollar Riddell and Co will be swilling it back in Magaluf as we speak



It makes me sick.

Graham Lowe introduced punishment training on a Monday morning even if we'd won but the performance wasn't to his standards

It's not that difficult is it, they're supposed to be professionals

Really annoying reading this, paying out money every week to watch them then you hear this. Why are they not knuckling down and making damn sure they get a win at Hull KR. Again i just know i'll be spending more money to watch a inept performance and a resounding loss. They don't care, its as simple as that. I sometimes wish i felt the same.

They should be on the tackle bags !

with a bit of luck half of them won't come back,

Nobby picks his statements to absolute perfection don't he? of all the things to say after the crapest performance of the season he announces that they are hurting so have gone on a jolly. It's so wrong it's laughable.



Time fo IL to grow a set and get them all on a tight line!!!!

Its really shocking that they allowed to go on holiday after a loss, any player worth their salt will be doing extra training which I bet a few of them will be just a few will be taking the mick and going for a pi55 up.

Simple thing if you win you get the week off if you lose then extra training because we have a massive game at Hull KR the week after. (Shaking head in disbelief)

I really hope some of the players are doing extra training, I can imagine Bailey would be. Lets hope they are eh?

I knew about it last week.

I can understand the players and club saying have a break. The players will have been told from early season that they where having a week off.

Imagine if you had booked your holidays then been told you couldn't have them.

I posted here [urlhttp://viewtopic.php?t=414865&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0[/url about what should have been done regarding the "holidays"

However, after my anger has died down "a little" I had another think. If I had my holidays booked and then cancelled by my company I would not be motivated for a while.
I'm putting my reasoned head on rather than my fans head here.

So what do you do.

Flog them tho death when they get back, or put your arm round them and give them a cuddle.

A good manager knows who needs what.

How many days are this bunch away on a bender? Our teams fitness isn't great so the last thing they need is a holiday.

I can't quite believe this has happened

What other job would allow you to be a continual up and still have your holiday? You'd be expected to sort out your mess, not go off on holiday.

Of course they are entitled to a holiday. And realistically they are playing over summer so this is their only chance.


I would have said "enjoy it though, as you will be working your ar*ses off when you come back".

And in reality those were my thoughts after I'd calmed down on Sunday.

If a job has an 'off season', say like teaching, you are unlikely to be granted a holiday during the season.

Second, if I up at work, I would be expected to make amends, not swann off on holiday.

Well I agree they should absolutely be hauled over the coals and some should lose their places by the sounds of it (I didn't go so can't comment on which ones).

However, it's a long season, everyone needs a break (mentally) and now is the best time.

But the club knew last November that they would have free week, so they and the payers would have made their plans.


Had we won on Saturday I don't think there would have been many complaints.

But we did not win. That is the point. If you screw up, you sort it out. Not go off on holiday. The fact Noble et al allowed this speaks volumes.

They can go off on holiday during the off season.

There would have been a fair few I reckon.

I could only wish for something like that. At least it would show that one player at least cares just a little about Wigan RL!

The thing is pro RL aren't like the rest of us, they have a maverick lifestyle and only train 10am til 1pm every day, they are on a fortune in excess of £50,000 a year so if they did get told last minute that they had the week off they could easily afford a holiday so it isn't like us booking a holiday and being told we can't take it due to fooking up is it?

Normal folk like us get 20 odd days a year holiday but RL players only train 10 to 18 hours a week and play an 80 minute game a week and there is challenge cup weekends, international weekends, play offs if they don't make them They have plenty time off to go on their jollies, the simple fact is they got beat fo the worst team in the comp and went off on holidays.

So because he didn't book weeks ago like others did (because they were told they were getting the week off) he cares more about Wigan RL? I wouldn't read into that as him having cancelled anything - he probably didn't have anything planned anyway.

Best scenario? Players all go on a short break, come back to a new coach, all fresh and revitalised ready for the second half of the season. Too bad that isn't going to happen.

If they were going on holiday after an outstanding first half of the season none of us would care about this story. However, Saturday was symptomatic of Wigan in the Noble era. Lack of passion, just doing enough to get by or slipping to a rubbish defeat and absolutely no tactics or invention whatsoever.

I'm sick to death of these rubbish, listless performances. The better teams in the league would have beaten Celtic by 20-30 points and done the job. Celtic played well on Saturday, absolutely fair play to them, but we were utterly dreadful in every way.

does anyone else think he mentioned the 'holiday' merely to deflect a bit of attention from himself?

Probably in the hope that the fans' wrath would deflect to the players, several pages of rants on message boards about being "unprofessional", "any player worth their salt would be doing extra training", "if I mess up at work, I dont get an all expenses paid holiday..." etc etc

Briliant bit of spin to deflect attention from his inadequacies and drop his team well and truly in it.

WOuld he have mentioned the holiday if they had won? I doubt it

the sooner this joker goes, the better

I agree with this Boris.

It's just another reflection of the mentality at the club. There is a lack of 'seriousness' to their approach and desire to win. It's almost like they don't really care if they win anything at the end of the season, and why would they? Their wages remain the same, there is little punishment or anything to face if the club loses, this goes for the manager as well as the players.

Each player throughout their career should be totally focused on winning, and doing whatever they can to win. I.e, training, preparation, skills, determination, desire all need to be worked on.

If a player wouldn't give his all to win then he has no place on the pitch.

There is no need for a mid-season holiday to win, it's crazy to think players need a week or so in the sun, to help. By this stage they should be pushing into 5th gear ready for their run at 1st or 2nd place, instead we have trouble taking off the handbrake.

As discussed in Radz's book there is a lack of professionalism and determination to win at Wigan. We need to bring in people who drive home what it takes to be a winner, (Faz) as right now I barely see a winner in cherry and white.