I don't honestly think the heart is there anymore for him to be the player he was unless it's to save him his regular income.

The only way i see clubs getting a decent level of preformence out of him would be for them to sign him on half season contracts or even less and keep making him preform.

The thing is I think Stu will actually be gutted about his form etc.. but whatever he tries he cannot regain his form of 3 years ago.

Enoughs Enough.

No heart whatsoever.

I agree with MOST of things posted but not all. He has certainly lost part of his game and will become the next player to hear the crowds groans when his name is announced prior to KO. But he hardly gets any help in the front row does he? Coley has done next to nothing for the past two years. We have had two good young kids trying and playing well but they don't have that respect yet that is needed in the front row. Then there is Fecka, yes he is good at what he does but we all know he is a luxury player not hard nose grafter. Put Fielden proping along side Smith, Cowie or Q and im sure you would see a different player. But I dont think he is going to be around the next time we sign player as good as the ones named.

Early doors i though we were in for a cameo Fielden performance, put in a massive hit and did an aggresive run, after that point he capitulated.


Said it many many times his relationship with Noble may well have made him but it will also cost him, needs new fresh ideas and input, or should i say needed, personally do not think anything can save him now.

When he was at the Bulls, Fielden used to take the ball at speed, run a straight line at speed and drive through tackles.

He now tries to stop dead and bump players off, then continue the momentum. This results in him being bitched most of the time and frequently losing the ball.

Either, he is being coached to run that way, in which case Nobby isn't doping his job. Or, he has changed his style off his own bat and Nobby hasn't corrected it in which case Nobby isn't doing his job.

If I were Nobby, I'd be having a 1 on 1 chat, away from the club and ears and eyes and sorting things out.

If Fielden got back to basic rugby league, 2 handed carries, hitting the ball at speed and good leg drive, he'll start to win the collision again and retain the ball. A few games of that and then progress from there.

Doesn't matter what happens from now until the end of the season, he should go as soon as possible.

Fielden has always been regarded by the pro coaches for his outstanding footwork, but he has lacked the direct basic graft for 99% of his Wigan career.

The key for a Prop is to find there front, he never does, he runs far too upright and is an easy target for the opposition because of his style and lack of suppporting players/off the ball runners.

I am sure Fielden and BN must have had "the chat" i would be livid if they did not by now.

Said for a long time on here Fielden needs to go back to basics which is take the ball up and find the front, simple as that.

Fighting for some form of pride as he takes the ball up is very dumb rugby he simply slows the play the ball down up and get shoved back and dominated.

The talk should be. Stuart, find the floor with your front on 60% of your carries our you are dropped.

Ben Cross would show him how to take the ball in!

Although not a prop we need a Paul Gallen type player. (Or even better Paul Gallen.) Then Hock could prop Lockers 2nd row and Gallen type at loose. Sam Thaiday would be good. Takes the ball in hard all day and has been playing 80 mins as well. Either way Stu needs to be dropped and IL will have to get the cheque book out.

Hate to burst your bubble but it ain't gona happen

Shirley Fielden could be made to leave, just don't play him and give him limited games in the reserves, he'd soon get sick of it and ask for a release imo

How good would Prescott and O'Carroll be at Saints?

both are better natural talents then Bryn Hargreaves yet he is thriving on playing in that enviroment and having rafts of leaders and quality players around him.

Yet again outplayed by Andy Coley (and that's saying something).

I know but we can all have a dream

he used to to be like he man's cat he as turned d into crenger

Just got home from the pub?

Surprised that you have not mentioned that Billy McGinty was twice the player he is.

might have done

My 7 year old would. As would most of his team mates.

No desire!! It's unforgivable.

A look at the stats shows Fielden is doing ok. The main problem is that for the money you signed him for he shouldnt just be doing ok. He should be in the same yardage league as Graham and Peacock. There are plenty worse props in SL but plenty better at present. Comparison with Coley below:- www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

A look at the stats shows Fielden is doing ok. The main problem is that for the money you signed him for he shouldnt just be doing ok. He should be in the same yardage league as Graham and Peacock. There are plenty worse props in SL but plenty better at present. Comparison with Coley below:- www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

He was poor on Thursday and not good today - but then not many were good today. I think he currently has two problems - he's always been a confidence player and that is shot, and he's not carrying the weight to make an impact these days - I also think he knows it and that's why he's not committing as hard. He seems to be trying but without the belief he can actually carry out the big hits or busts like he used to.

Yes, he often stops as he hits the line - he's trying to bounce the tackler, and it does work sometimes - we've seen him throw players around for fun occasionally. Problem is unless it's spot on, you just become a stationary target.

However - he's still partly carrying our front row. We have Coley - a decent workhorse, Feka - a luxury but a short-term impact player, Prescott - rate him highly but still young for a prop, O'Carroll - another prospect but also young for a prop. We have one impact player and Fielden trying to be the enforcer he used to be, but without the confidence, surrounding pack or relative size of old.

He also seems to be a bit of a loner - and whether that's acceptable in a struggling team I'm not sure. I've always backed him and still think he can cut it, but he needs to bulk up and his confidence is an issue.

The fact that Fielden is still partly carrying our front row tells you just how poor the rest of the front row is. That is the reason Noble cannot drop him because it will just weaken an already awful front row even more.

Tosh

No, he needs to but he isn't, he's the worst of our four fit props