Never got the stick George got at wigan I like most of you have friends who follow other clubs they said they would love him at there clubs.

Had this argument with my dad quite a lot when George was still here. He eventually came to accept that he was amazingly productive at setting up tries, but that he expected more from a half back than just scoring and assisting, and George needed to be a better at organising and managing the game. Funnily enough, now Williams has been getting some rave reviews down under he's rather changed his tune!

Like you, I think his critics underestimated his value, especially considering that plenty of our rivals have had some dross in the halves over recent years (what would Leeds have given for a Williams in the last few years?!). Having said that, I suppose if you were brought up watching some of the greats who could do it all, then I can sort of understand why you might want to push back at Williams getting put in the same bracket.

Questions are starting to be asked about Williams after Canberra's last few games. His kicking game, and Wighton's running game are the only threats they seem to have close to the line, but Williams needs to show more creativity.

3 in the NRL assists charts seems creative enough to me. He’s been their best player since the restart quite comfortably for my money.

I’d be asking questions elsewhere if I were a Canberra fan or coach or if I were a TV pundit.

Where are these questions being asked?

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That's what I alluded to earlier - People saying he's getting slated - yet when I have half an hour and go look I check forums with Hundreds of posts and nothing.
Now I don't do Twitter & I'm not going to do Facebook - But to be honest I'd take people responses off there with a pinch of salt anyway - But even so I can Zero criticism of George - But just like in todays climate, you can perceive there to be an issue just by saying there's an issue and hey presto tyou've created one where there is none, Just to back up your previously held arguments.

Soward and some other bloke were talking about it on 'inside the NRL' available on YouTube.

Ha ha! Just watched it!
Nothing like how you make out

they are pal, his centre is getting it the most

soward?...

Jamie Soward, ex SGI Dragons and London Broncos.

Williams played to a decent standard in most Wigan games its just that many people only focused on bits of poor play and expected him to create a try every time he touched the ball whilst allowing Tommy to get away with doing virtually nothing in attack every week.

I think he is doing well. Every half back gets some kind of criticism organisers generally get stuck for not being creative or off the cuff enough n your maverick get blasted for poor organisation n game control.

There will be aspects of any players individual ability that are not as good as others it's how they blend into a team that is important. William's is a player I would expect to improve massively over the next few seasons . It's too early to call him a top top half back but he is certainly one of the better half backs of his generation and IF he improves then he will be one of the top half backs in the nrl and world.

Another defeat for the Raiders (Golden point) but Williams was pretty good again and got big Wraps from the commentary team

It was a great end to the game, the Raiders looked dead with 5 to go and showed great character to get back into it. Thought they lost the battle in the forwards and the Eels would have probably wrapped it up more convincingly had Moses stayed on the field.
Williams did pretty well again, his kick for the try was class, that’s his fifth kick assist of the season already.

The kick for the try at the end was pinpoint, and coming after that head clash with about 23 minutes to go, even harder to do. Cracking game, draw would have been a fair result. Pity that there were so many bad injuries at this venue over the weekend.

Thought he was fairly quiet. Got lucky on a few plays from poor decisions but took the head clash well.

Came up with a massive play when needed though and that was almost the game changer.

Don’t think we will see his best till next year but still a decent showing today.

I’m personally loving watching Sutton think he is really developing into a great player. He always frustrated me at Wigan due to his loose carry however in his last year with us he started to show up really well.

For me the natural successor to Locky for England at 13.

I just watched the game. Yes, Sutton looked strong again, another good effort. George had a lot of traffic running at him, but showed his quality with the assist. But let's be right, the Raiders were playing arguably the best side in the comp, and really, I always fancied Parra for the win, even when Canberra were ahead. Obviously losing Moses was a blow (more so going forward), but they coped well with Takairangi. They just always looked like winning the forward battle. Great Saturday night entertainment for me.

Like an old record but Josh Hodgson is a myth. His halfbacks just don’t get enough early ball to work with. The amount of attacks he killed today with him hogging the ball was just incredible.

If I’ve seen a player as overrated before I can’t think of him.

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Iv never been a huge fan but he has built up a big rep in Oz so I presumed I must be missing something. In the second half he was dropping into the halfbacks a lot of times and it just ended up with Canberra having no shape, he’s certainly a leader and willing to stand up and be counted I suppose but I don’t think he’s good enough to be holding the ball for so long and I wouldn’t have him kicking out of hand so much either.

George Williams special right there

I was just thinking the same. That is what George is very good at, his kick for their second try wasn’t bad either.

Another good performance. He’s handling the move really well and has certainly been one of Canberra’s best so far this year. Yet another poor boy, plucked from the slums and given a chance at life by those heroic Raiders.

I think he is enjoying not being the go to half at the moment.

With us I think there was a philosophy of “give it to George” and hope he comes up with something, at times.

Having Wighton along side him means he can inject himself in the game when he wants rather than having to be that focal point of attack.

Would love to see a few years down the track a situation where Harry Smith has developed as you’d hope he will and is pulling the strings and Williams comes back to Wigan to play alongside him. I never thought Williams really got chance to play in a nicely balanced partnership and you’re right that we pinned too much in him. It’s all hypothetical and relies on various things dropping in to place but I think a Williams/Smith partnership would be beautifully balanced.