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| Quote ="Conroy"Why are people still moaning??? We knew the format AND the rules and we lost. Simple as that.
As I've said numerous times, I don't agree with the playoffs and probably prefer a top 5 or 6 based on the teams in the league if I had to choose but they're here to stay as a top 8 so accept it and move on.'"
And as if by magic.....
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Not with MM they don't.'"
Well technically with the WCC for the previous winners they don't either - but if you think that justifies 8th being able to win the league in a knock out competition then so be it.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"My work here is done. Thats the most idiotic post ive ever seen.'"
Trawl through your previous 1893 posts sweetheart and you may surprise yourself. Maybe do it on Saturday around 6pm.
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| Quote ="P-J"Well technically with the WCC for the previous winners they don't either - but if you think that justifies 8th being able to win the league in a knock out competition then so be it.'"
Good job it's 3rd v 5th then isn't it.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Why are people still moaning??? We knew the format AND the rules and we lost. Simple as that.
As I've said numerous times, I don't agree with the playoffs and probably prefer a top 5 or 6 based on the teams in the league if I had to choose but they're here to stay as a top 8 so accept it and move on.'"
We already know we lost and we knew the format. Im not saying we deserved anything we havent got because we dont. The system is rubbish though and people shouldnt just lie down and accept things they dont agree with. Imagine if everybody just accepted everything because its here to stay? People will always voice their opinions against things they dont agree with and theres nothing wrong with that.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Losing one game to a team does not make somebody a better side does it? '"
Losing twice to the same team within a fortnight does though. IMO.
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"Trawl through your previous 1893 posts sweetheart and you may surprise yourself. Maybe do it on Saturday around 6pm.'"
By your reckoning Salford are better than Warrington. You wont find anything that absurd in anything i post even if i do 5,000,000
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| Quote ="AJC"Losing twice to the same team within a fortnight does though. IMO.'"
Quite agree, we simply werent good enough this time.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"By your reckoning Salford are better than Warrington. You wont find anything that absurd in anything i post even if i do 5,000,000
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Salford were certainly better on the day they beat them.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"By your reckoning Salford are better than Warrington. You wont find anything that absurd in anything i post even if i do 5,000,000
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What you could do, is make a wildly spurious comment that simply wasn't typed and then mask it in something equally random.
And then you could laugh at your own joke.
Make for a great post.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"We already know we lost and we knew the format. Im not saying we deserved anything we havent got because we dont. The system is rubbish though and people shouldnt just lie down and accept things they dont agree with. Imagine if everybody just accepted everything because its here to stay? People will always voice their opinions against things they dont agree with and theres nothing wrong with that.'"
Rightly or wrongly, what we think is irrelevant. The clubs agreed too and therefore play too a top 8.
If we were in the final and this thread appeared on the Wire board we would have ridiculed them no end.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"We already know we lost and we knew the format. Im not saying we deserved anything we havent got because we dont. The system is rubbish though and people shouldnt just lie down and accept things they dont agree with. Imagine if everybody just accepted everything because its here to stay? People will always voice their opinions against things they dont agree with and theres nothing wrong with that.'"
The system is not rubbish - as 80,000+ fans at Old Trafford will testify. I enjoy watching the best clubs in the comp going hammer & tong for the right to be champions. It may not be to everyones liking, and I would certainly agree that the current format (& the abysmal 'club call') needs altering, but the playoffs are here to stay, and are a very valuable marketing tool for the RFL.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Yes but that was down to both teams being ultra consistent for the 25 games prior to that game at the HJ. Warrington lost the whole chamionship on one game to a team that finished 4 places and a lot of points behind them which is out of order imo.'"
Yes but you beat Warrington twice this year.
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"What you could do, is make a wildly spurious comment that simply wasn't typed and then mask it in something equally random.
And then you could laugh at your own joke.
Make for a great post.'"
I posted that "do you think beating a team once means their better?" and you replied with clearly, quite clearly, very clearly.
Ive just put it into clear english the bull that you have agreed to and now you dont like it?
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| Quote ="Conroy"Rightly or wrongly, what we think is irrelevant. The clubs agreed too and therefore play too a top 8.
If we were in the final and this thread appeared on the Wire board we would have ridiculed them no end.'"
Thats because people prefer to ridicule than see the bigger picture . I know we agreed to it at beginning as did everybody else. I just feel there is better ways to decide the champions. Lets be honest we wouldnt of won it no matter what the system is so thats not the matter in hand here.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"I posted that "do you think beating a team once means their better?" and you replied with clearly, quite clearly, very clearly.
Ive just put it into clear english the bull that you have agreed to and now you dont like it?
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I will assume you are merely having a bad day instead of being quite simply, dense.
Beating a team, when it matters, at the key time of the season (which all teams are focused upon) clearly indicates that they are better. Especially given Saints handed you your battys twice in the Play-Off's. Similarly for Leeds to beat Hull, Huddersfield and Warrington in successive weeks indicates they are better than said teams. It's not astro physics given the smart clubs/players will peak at the right time.
But then you know that.
Does your wine taste as sour as your other grapes?
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"I will assume you are merely having a bad day instead of being quite simply, dense.
Beating a team, when it matters, at the key time of the season (which all teams are focused upon) clearly indicates that they are better. Especially given Saints handed you your battys twice in the Play-Off's. Similarly for Leeds to beat Hull, Huddersfield and Warrington in successive weeks indicates they are better than said teams. It's not astro physics given the smart clubs/players will peak at the right time.
But then you know that.
Does your wine taste as sour as your other grapes?'"
Beating a team once doesnt make them better imo so we will have to agree to disagree as its getting boring now
As ive said we wouldnt of won no matter what the system so its hardly sour grapes. I just think the system could be better.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Beating a team once doesnt make them better imo so we will have to agree to disagree as its getting boring now
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Nobody has got to OT by winning once.
Quote ="Wandering Warrior"As ive said we wouldnt of won no matter what the system so its hardly sour grapes. I just think the system could be better.'"
How? Given you would have lost anyway, as you identify, it's a moot point.
I should be more worried with rectifying the horrendous "techniques" of a variety of your players which are far more detrimental to the sports perception.
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"I should be more worried with rectifying the horrendous "techniques" of a variety of your players which are far more detrimental to the sports perception.'"
Haven't watched the game back yet, but there was one incident where Lima looked to deliberately twist Lomax's ankle? Anyone seen that or was it something of nothing?
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| Quote ="BaldRick"Finish top and you are champions .
If we are going to include 8th in the playoffs we should include the other 6 teams and have an end of season KO competition . If we were to win next week then I for one wouldn't consider us as champs as we finished in 5th in the regular rounds . I wouldn't consider Saints as champs if they win . WIRE ARE THE CHAMPIONS .
OT is a good end to the season , but who plays there , and why they play there , needs to be sorted out so that it rewards the winner with something the really deserve .
Nuf said .'"
Ill remember this when I bump into you after the game celebrating because Leeds are the 2011 Superleague Champions!
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Haven't watched the game back yet, but there was one incident where Lima looked to deliberately twist Lomax's ankle? Anyone seen that or was it something of nothing?'"
Yup, horrendous incident and Lomax was fortunate he didn't receive a career threatening injury on the back of it. Lima has this in his "armoury" repeatedly. Similarly, Hoffman's frequent high shots should have been dealt with more severely and Tommy L's, leg shot tackles aimed at hyper extending. It's been coached, without question. And it's poor form. Lowest common denominator rugby. For that reason, among many others, I am delighted you beat Wigan.
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"Yup, horrendous incident and Lomax was fortunate he didn't receive a career threatening injury on the back of it. Lima has this in his "armoury" repeatedly. Similarly, Hoffman's frequent high shots should have been dealt with more severely and Tommy L's, leg shot tackles aimed at hyper extending. It's been coached, without question. And it's poor form. Lowest common denominator rugby. For that reason, among many others, I am delighted you beat Wigan.'"
Now we are getting to the point. Basically you just hate Wigan? Typical i should of known
Good to know people still hate us even though we arent gonna be champions
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| Quote ="Gurus_Beard"Yup, horrendous incident and Lomax was fortunate he didn't receive a career threatening injury on the back of it. Lima has this in his "armoury" repeatedly. Similarly, Hoffman's frequent high shots should have been dealt with more severely and Tommy L's, leg shot tackles aimed at hyper extending. It's been coached, without question. And it's poor form. Lowest common denominator rugby. For that reason, among many others, I am delighted you beat Wigan.'"
Christ, this is getting tired. Apparently we are alone in having just about every player aiming to injure every opposition player on every tackle. Tackle round the chest/shoulders? High shot aimed at injury. Tackle round the legs? Aiming at hyper extension to cause injury. Grabbing the ball carrying arm to stop an offload? Attempted chicken-wing to cause injury.
Watch any match, with any team, and you'll see all of the above, but never mind that, Wigan are evil.
Give it a rest.
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