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| Quote ="cadoo"I've always thought Charnley has been a bit error prone. Goulding may not have the same attacking prowess as Charnley, but more often than not he is very safe and error free.
I've been encouraged by Brett Finch after every game. He has improved and seems to have settled in more with the squad. His defence needs to improve and sometimes some passes don't come off, but with time he will fit right in.
Joel Tomkins is in a tricky situation for me. He's being asked to learn a whole new skill set at centre and pretty quickly too. In defence I haven't noticed any mishaps, which is encouraging. It's just his decision making and lack of acceleration that is letting him down. I certainly wouldn't drop him though.
McIlorum has been poor for a few weeks now. His place must be in serious threat with Logan Tomkins doing a superb job at Widnes.
Still I don't feel wholesale changes are needed. With the situation we've found ourselves in (losing WCC, getting over Madge leaving, Gleeson leaving and a new halfback partnership) I think to be second - win our game in hand and we're joint top - does not warrant us to panic. We can still win this league and we can beat Wire in the cup. We've a squad capable of doing it. By the end of June we'll see Andy Coley, Gareth Hock and possibly Stuart Fielden return which will freshen up the side. I'm still confident.
Credit to Les Catalans though. They're a real threat this year. Trent Robinson has turned them around.'"
Thanks for giving a serious answer My posts were in the heat of the moment (and bloody hell is there plenty of heat) but I do think Charnley could be at risk. He seems to have made quite a few errors and that was enough to get Goulding dropped so the same should apply for Charnley.
Joel Tomkins is frustrating at centre, but he might be banned for our next game if he's been fighting again. It sounds like Charnley and O'Loughlin might be at risk of a ban too.
McIlorum hasn't been consistent this season and consistency is very important for a hooker.
Finch tends to do several good things in a game and also several bad things. In poor games he'll be bad, in good games he'll be very good but with a few mistakes. I keep wavering between being very impressed and very unimpressed.
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| I've said it before and i'll say it again the board amins should ban board swapping. I come on this board expecting to discuss Wigan topics and what do I find Wire tools gloating because Wigan lose i'm sure this board is called cherryandwhite not PrimroseandBlue or whatever its called, If you want to gloat kindly do it on your own board oh and any chance of bans for these no hopers that keep popping up we lose our first game in over a year a record broken in the process and all of a sudden we'll win nothing this season, Get a grip a win against Cas (H) we go top.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"Cas (H) we go top.'"
Correct. We just have to win 213-0.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"I've said it before and i'll say it again the board amins should ban board swapping. I come on this board expecting to discuss Wigan topics and what do I find Wire tools gloating because Wigan lose i'm sure this board is called cherryandwhite not PrimroseandBlue or whatever its called, If you want to gloat kindly do it on your own board oh and any chance of bans for these no hopers that keep popping up we lose our first game in over a year a record broken in the process and all of a sudden we'll win nothing this season, Get a grip a win against Cas (H) we go top.'"
Exactly well put.
You'll go top when you beat cas 250 to nil!
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| Quote ="wiganrl"I've said it before and i'll say it again the board amins should ban board swapping. I come on this board expecting to discuss Wigan topics and what do I find Wire tools gloating because Wigan lose i'm sure this board is called cherryandwhite not PrimroseandBlue or whatever its called, If you want to gloat kindly do it on your own board oh and any chance of bans for these no hopers that keep popping up we lose our first game in over a year a record broken in the process and all of a sudden we'll win nothing this season, Get a grip a win against Cas (H) we go top.'"
Top of what?you think you will make up the points difference against cas
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"Exactly well put.
You'll go top when you beat cas 250 to nil!'"
Don't be so bloody daft.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Correct. We just have to win 213-0.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Top of what?you think you will make up the points difference against cas
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| Quote ="cadoo"Correct. We just have to win 213-0.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"I wonder what will happen re the fighting. Both Lockers and Joel ran in to fight when Sam took a big but fair hit according to Radio Manchester. They should get at least one match each - going by what is being dished out by the disciplinary - which would rule them out of either the exiles game or the derby. No doubt they will get let off soley because the exiles match is next up.'"
Did you have a clear view of the incident from where you were sat?
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| Quote ="wiganrl"I've said it before and i'll say it again the board amins should ban board swapping. I come on this board expecting to discuss Wigan topics and what do I find Wire tools gloating because Wigan lose i'm sure this board is called cherryandwhite not PrimroseandBlue or whatever its called, If you want to gloat kindly do it on your own board oh and any chance of bans for these no hopers that keep popping up we lose our first game in over a year a record broken in the process and all of a sudden we'll win nothing this season, Get a grip a win against Cas (H) we go top.'"
Got a very tricky run of Saints away, Hudds home and Leeds away before that game against Cas.
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| Quote ="Famous"Did you have a clear view of the incident from where you were sat?'"
Read my post again - It was a fair challenge I said according to Radio Manchester. If they ran in to join in the fight then they will be in trouble with the RFL. the punishment for that type of thing at present seems to be one or even two matches.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"I wonder what will happen re the fighting. Both Lockers and Joel ran in to fight when Sam took a big but fair hit according to Radio Manchester. They should get at least one match each - going by what is being dished out by the disciplinary - which would rule them out of either the exiles game or the derby. No doubt they will get let off soley because the exiles match is next up.'"
We've got Castleford before the derby.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Got a very tricky run of Saints away, Hudds home and Leeds away before that game against Cas.'"
Some tough games coming up for you lot just as we have. June see saints play Leeds ( last night), bulls away, Wigan home and wolves away.
With few of the top four playing each other over the next month or so will shape the league going into the business end.
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"We've got Castleford before the derby.'"
I forgot about the Sunday games next week
You should be able to put out a good side without a few of your first teamers. I can't see sam playing in the Exiles match if he has a dead leg from tonight's game.
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| Quote ="cadoo"I've always thought Charnley has been a bit error prone. Goulding may not have the same attacking prowess as Charnley, but more often than not he is very safe and error free.
I've been encouraged by Brett Finch after every game. He has improved and seems to have settled in more with the squad. His defence needs to improve and sometimes some passes don't come off, but with time he will fit right in.
Joel Tomkins is in a tricky situation for me. He's being asked to learn a whole new skill set at centre and pretty quickly too. In defence I haven't noticed any mishaps, which is encouraging. It's just his decision making and lack of acceleration that is letting him down. I certainly wouldn't drop him though.
McIlorum has been poor for a few weeks now. His place must be in serious threat with Logan Tomkins doing a superb job at Widnes.
Still I don't feel wholesale changes are needed. With the situation we've found ourselves in (losing WCC, getting over Madge leaving, Gleeson leaving and a new halfback partnership) I think to be second - win our game in hand and we're joint top - does not warrant us to panic. We can still win this league and we can beat Wire in the cup. We've a squad capable of doing it. By the end of June we'll see Andy Coley, Gareth Hock and possibly Stuart Fielden return which will freshen up the side. I'm still confident.
Credit to Les Catalans though. They're a real threat this year. Trent Robinson has turned them around.'"
I dont think you are wrong with any of that. As you say Finch has been improving the last few weeks but Charnley, Joel Tomkins and McIlorum have been poor and make too many mistakes. Players have certainly been dropped for far less and I think those 3 have been very lucky that we have played some poor teams and have been winning fairly easily. Maguire does not like to change a winning team and I think that is what has saved them from being dropped. It will certainly be interesting to see what happens next week but then again with the Exiles match they may get another chance.
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| Some of the posts on here are embarrassing. We got beat, in a game that was very even for most of the game, by a team who played the best rugby I've seen for many years earlier this season at Wigan.
With a full team at their disposal Catalan will give any team a run for their money.
Maybe Wigan weren't 100% on their game, but that doesn't happen every game, and sometimes you have to accept defeat graciously.
Well done Catalan.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Some of the posts on here are embarrassing. We got beat, in a game that was very even for most of the game, by a team who played the best rugby I've seen for many years earlier this season at Wigan.
With a full team at their disposal Catalan will give any team a run for their money.
Maybe Wigan weren't 100% on their game, but that doesn't happen every game, and sometimes you have to accept defeat graciously.
Well done Catalan.'"
Agreed Rogues !! I listened to the game and it was very even till Catalan scored on the 70 minute mark and then we just fell apart !! but i think we played okay we had a light forward pack today infront of a very physical Catalan outfit !! Well Played Catalans !!
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| Quote ="wiganrl"I've said it before and i'll say it again the board amins should ban board swapping. I come on this board expecting to discuss Wigan topics and what do I find Wire tools gloating because Wigan lose i'm sure this board is called cherryandwhite not PrimroseandBlue or whatever its called, If you want to gloat kindly do it on your own board oh and any chance of bans for these no hopers that keep popping up we lose our first game in over a year a record broken in the process and all of a sudden we'll win nothing this season, Get a grip a win against Cas (H) we go top.'"
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| i think far to many people on this forum are more bothered about us losing & warrington winning! and dont they just know it! all the warrington fans on here gloating and stupidly we're rising to it! to me it sounds like it was quite a balanced game, with errors on both sides! we cant of been as bad as were being made out to be otherwise castleford would have ran away with it, and the points margin would of been much larger! we are missing our big props & i think we will find our form when we get our full squad back! and get them playing like the champions we are! just in time to thrash warrington and wipe that smug smile off their faces!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Some of the posts on here are embarrassing. We got beat, in a game that was very even for most of the game, by a team who played the best rugby I've seen for many years earlier this season at Wigan.
With a full team at their disposal Catalan will give any team a run for their money.
Maybe Wigan weren't 100% on their game, but that doesn't happen every game, and sometimes you have to accept defeat graciously.
Well done Catalan.'"
Play that game 10 more times, we'd win 9 of them. Absouletly no penalties second half for us and you just have to say well done Catalan for that! Put's pressure on us though, let's see how we get on.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"reap what you sow, your numpties have been very very vocal in reminding us and trying to put us in our place so to speak continually chelping on about your game in hand and going top outright this past 2/3 weeks or so.
Boringly.'"
Seconded.
Never going to be easy winning at Catalans but there has been a number of Wigan fans telling us that once the game in hand is won you'll be top. Surely you expected an invasion of Wire fans when you lost - just as will happen when we lose!
This season is going to the final weekend - I expect we'll lose before the season has finished as will you.
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| Quote ="wiganrl"I've said it before and i'll say it again the board amins should ban board swapping. I come on this board expecting to discuss Wigan topics and what do I find Wire tools gloating because Wigan lose i'm sure this board is called cherryandwhite not PrimroseandBlue or whatever its called, If you want to gloat kindly do it on your own board oh and any chance of bans for these no hopers that keep popping up we lose our first game in over a year a record broken in the process and all of a sudden we'll win nothing this season, Get a grip a win against Cas (H) we go top.'"
Wiganer, in wants to 'keep to his own kind' shocker
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| Onwards and upwards. Yes I'm disappointed we lost (so much so that I tuck the dogs out for 2 hour walk to clear my head), but these things happen. We've got some very difficult games ahead, which will undoubtedly show where were at. Two points of top with a game in hand, ain't bad. We've all seen just how well this team can play, I just hope the team begin to perform on a consistent basis and for the whole 80 minutes. Then I'll be happy.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Read my post again - It was a fair challenge I said according to Radio Manchester. If they ran in to join in the fight then they will be in trouble with the RFL. [uthe punishment for that type of thing at present seems to be one or even two matches.[/u'"
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