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| Quote ="DaveO"That's the difference. Gamesmanship goes on all the time. Players dropping the ball an getting penalties for having the ball stolen etc. It goes on all the time. Taking players out is not gamesmanship and is pure cheating.
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I'm no fan of leeds or cheating but you should really as a mod at least have a private pm with Odemwingie for:
Quote Odemwingie wrote:1. I hope his career is over'"
I don't think that sort of sentiment should have any place on these forums, do you?
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| Wigan lambasting another team for 'cheating'. Pot calling kettle black.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"1. I hope his career is over.
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You really are a disgusting little pr!ck arnt you. I have teams i dislike, pantomine villians (bailey, long, o'loughlin, etc etc) but i would never wish anybody's career over. The guy was doing what 99% of SL players would have done, and that is trying to win the game. Yes it was cheating, yes it was wrong but for feck sake to wish that a guy's career be finished get a grip!!!!
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"What macguire did was cheating and should of been red and a one game ban imo. I dont blame him one bit, any player would of taken a one game ban to help his side through, cheating or not.'"
it was a taking a player off the ball in the chase, it something that maybe happens 100 times a season, it happened twice yesterday against crusaders, Hudds were punished twice for it. But we arent hearing these same accusations levelled at them because it wasnt the last minute.
Its a penalty, thats whats in the rules, it wasnt violent, it wasnt a professional foul, remove the incident from the situation and it really is a nothing incident that if it happens in the first minute rather than the last nobody mentions.
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| So that's Saints, Wire and Cas fans all pointing out the idiocy of this topic.
Hopefully tomorrow morning when the dust has settled you can take a look at this game as a fantastic showpiece for rugby league that Leeds won by the skin of their teeth.
The 'cheating' was penalised...move on. If Richards had landed the kick we wouldn't be hearing all this.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"I'm no fan of leeds or cheating but you should really as a mod at least have a private pm with Odemwingie for:
I don't think that sort of sentiment should have any place on these forums, do you?'"
I think the MODs may have their hands full to be honest having to lock/delete all the opposition supporters coming over wumming/trolling?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"it was a taking a player off the ball in the chase, it something that maybe happens 100 times a season, it happened twice yesterday against crusaders, Hudds were punished twice for it. But we arent hearing these same accusations levelled at them because it wasnt the last minute.
Its a penalty, thats whats in the rules, it wasnt violent, it wasnt a professional foul, remove the incident from the situation and it really is a nothing incident that if it happens in the first minute rather than the last nobody mentions.'"
The timing of it is what makes it so dodgy but i suppose they cant have different rules for different periods of the game
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"So why are Wigan fans moaning about it so much, like you said you would want your player to do the same so whats with all the moaning.
Of course it wasn't right, but if that was against my team i would not be bothered in the slightest if they had done it.'"
You would.
If you're going to be an idiot and try and provoke an argument from a sensible comment, at least have the balls not to be a hypocrite about it.
We all react differently when it's our team. Had it been McGuire on Brett Hodgson, I doubt I'd have given it much more thought than to think it was wrong.
We might have scored from it, we might have knocked on - we'll never know.
The only certainty from it is that McGuire cheated.
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| yes he did cheat but look, we had several chances to seal the game, and it was the little mistakes that cost us, we get another crack at it next week, whats the big deal, i dont think having the week off would of done us any favors, as for danny boy, justice has been served with his injury, so people leaving nasty comments on here about him isnt fair imo. he cheated and he paid the price for it....
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| Quote ="Guerrier"You would.
If you're going to be an idiot and try and provoke an argument from a sensible comment, at least have the balls not to be a hypocrite about it.
We all react differently when it's our team. Had it been McGuire on Brett Hodgson, I doubt I'd have given it much more thought than to think it was wrong.
We might have scored from it, we might have knocked on - we'll never know.
The only certainty from it is that McGuire cheated.'"
Just read what i put i worded it wrong, i wasn't trying to be any idiot and provoke so get off your high horse
I meant to say if that was my team what had done what Leeds did i would not of been bothered in the slightest.
Of course he's a cheat, but i wouldn't go on moaning about it even if it happened against my team why because i would expect any player in that situation to do the same.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"If you Pies are so concerned to stamp out foul play, how come none of you is mentioning Joel 'Mr Niggle 2nd' Tomkins and his kicking Maguire on the ground? I suppose that's allowed?'" After Maquire had clawed his fingers down Joels legs.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"his 1. I hope career is over.Quote '" '"
as a wigan fan i am ashamed of your post, you should be banned!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Iit wasnt a professional foul,'"
Since when is tackling a player without the ball to prevent a score not a professional foul? Carmont was deliberately held back so could not support Richards, Richards was tackled without the ball and in both cases these were deliberate actions to prevent a score. You'd get sent off in soccer for doing the same and I can't believe people are arguing there was nothing much wrong here as RL is supposed to be above all that and it's supposed soccer that has an inbuilt cheats charter.
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| Quote ="MrMeat&PotatoPie"Call me sour grapes all you like... but we were robbed.
Richards slowed down to throw the pass to Carmont and he was taken out
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Carmont grab by Mcguire was a penalty, Donalds attempted tackle was certainly not!
How can your lot talk about cheating when you've got the Tomkins goons in your side?? One blatantly clamped defenders arms to win penalties whilst the other decided its ok just to simply kick someone trying to play the ball
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Bad loser'"
Admitted I was out of line on another thread!
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| Quote ="matty wire 75"You really are a disgusting little pr!ck arnt you. I have teams i dislike, pantomine villians (bailey, long, o'loughlin, etc etc) but i would never wish anybody's career over. The guy was doing what 99% of SL players would have done, and that is trying to win the game. Yes it was cheating, yes it was wrong but for feck sake to wish that a guy's career be finished get a grip!!!!'"
Again, it was heat of the moment. I was wrong as said on another thread.
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| Quote ="jjsgran"After Maquire had clawed his fingers down Joels legs.'"
so foul play is allowed as long as you're provoked
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"Of course he's a cheat, but i wouldn't go on moaning about it even if it happened against my team why because [ui would expect any player in that situation to do the same.[/u'"
This is the attitude that ought not to be in RL and the thing is the refs have the tools with the rules as they are to stop it becoming part of the game.
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| Quote ="DaveO"This is the attitude that ought not to be in RL and the thing is the refs have the tools with the rules as they are to stop it becoming part of the game.
Dave'"
Correct, it's cheating and I would not be happy winning in that way.
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| Quote ="Quins_Bull"Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttt
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
choked x 3'"
I'll use this post to answer all similar ones. Choked? hahahahahahahah. Is that really the best you can do?
If you're gonna troll at least make them better than a 1 out of 10 attempt. Unless you enjoy looking like an idiot, in which case, carry on.
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| Quote ="conradjames"Real cheating is deliberately signing players while knowing your over the cap to avoid relegation. Quit whining you bunch of jelly jawed, 10 thumbed banjo playing inbreds.'"
Who signed players when they were over the cap to avoid relagation?
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| I think most super league fans would say what Sammy boy dose is cheating ,
he gets away with it so its become part of his repertoire and up to the refs to educate the lad to a more righteous way. his brother however needs to be told that kicking a fellow professional while on the ground is poor and to be avoided!
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| Quote ="WIGAN FOREVER"pretty classless bunch Leeds. From Lautiti's kicking of the posts before the penalty to Uncle Fester's demands for the disciplinary to look into the Mcquire incident. Add to that the like's of Bailey, the bald adulterer, and the wannabe ref masqerading as a loose forward and yep it isn't nice to lose to them. I still think we can improve and hopefully will get the chance to knock their tarnished crown off at either their place or Old Trafford.'"
As classless as kicking a player on his knees or wishing injury on a player? some very bitter pies today.
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| Truth is we were crap last night. Had we won I would have been very worried about the semi final as the last thing we need right now is a week off - we are playing nowhere near our best rugby.
Back to the drawing board for us, hopefully a good performance next week will get us playing our best in the semi.
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