Briers is quality when on form to be fair and he is at the moment. He's a t*t and not just on the pitch but that doesn't take away his ability. He can unpick the best defences in the world when he's firing and has proved it in the past but so can Sam and he'll always be helped by having a more level head on his shoulders.

As for the Morley and Carvell incidents I can't comment in the Carvell one as I haven't seen it but i'd be stunned f Morley is trotting out on Saturday night. It was a late stiff arm to the back of somebodys head and there can be no excuse for it tbh. I remember a few years ago Brandon Costin getting pinned for a good few games for hitting Long late after he'd kicked it and I thought he'd been unfairly treated simply because Long got injured. Morleys on Saturday wasn't a million miles off and he should be looking at a couple of games.

Didn't think I was...

I am really struggling to believe that any Warrington fan would rather have Briers (an overated old player who doesn't turn up half the time) than Tomkins (a young half back who just won YPOTY).

Briers reads and interception and suddenly there is no other player who can read a game as well as he can!

At least when we go on and on about Sam Tomkins it's because he has won YPOTY or scored 3 tries away at Castleford getting MOM or playing for his country in his first full season. I am pretty sure Tomkins could retire in 5 years and have a better career than Briers.

I would right now given the choice.

He's always a threat and so very clever at reading the game, Sam might go on in the future to be better but right now its Briers for me you only have to look at the semi.

No way is Briers overated

Should Briers of been in the dream team over Tomkins then?

No

But in this Wire side I would have him over Tomkins.

Saying [iBriers is an overated old player who doesn't turn up half the time[/i is load of crap he's led our team on his on in the halves for years.

At the end of the day, Briers at his peak and Sam at his peak are never going to be on the same field so in terms of who I'd want in my team, it's Sam all the way. Briers wasn't overrated in his day, but that day I think has passed.

Strongly disagree

The signing of Myler will boost his game IMO.

He's still got that quick thinking to see things others can't including Tomkins.

Briers has the brains. He is one of the smartest rugby players in the league. He just doesn't have the tools to physically to match his mental abilities anymore. If he can get as much of his Rugby brain into Myler's head over the next year or two Myler would come on leaps and bounds.

You watch Tomkins off the ball and you will see how silly you have made yourself look.

I agree his legs aren't as quick as they were but he's still a great kicker and still knows where the try line is.

Myler has the speed and I think we will see alot of Briers putting Myler into the gaps this season, the two of them playing together will only get better.

In what way?

Brier's is better at seeing the game for me, it you don't agree thats up to you but I think your way off the mark on Briers.

Whereas our halfback pairing can play individually and don't need the other in order to play their game.

You said Tomkins doesn't have that quick thinking, but he clearly does. I am not saying he can read a game like Briers yet but that can only come with more experience.

At the minute I worry about Briers, the new signings and the Challenge Cup win seems to have given him a new lease of life.

He won that Cas game single handedly for Wire, and we HAVE to shut him down if we are to win on Sat. Simple.

I disagree, if we shut their pack down, we should win pretty confortable.

Just like last years cup semi final?

Congrats on being the 700th person to say that in this thread.

I think you are slightly over estimating the numbers there!

I didn't say Tomkins doesn't have quick thinking though.

I said Briers sees things he doesn't.

Neither do ours.

I was just pointing out one part of there game.

What, like Dead people?

That'll be due to the ale

Briers was outstanding at the weekend.

I'm a big Tomkins fan but I've yet to see him control every facet of a game the way Briers can and did. I would say the better player NOW is Briers, but that's certainly not to say Tomkins won't go on to be better.

Having said that I don't see either of them every week so what do I know

Hang on, I said if we shut wires pack down and in the semi-final we didn't therefore your comment just shows that in forum language you are a complete tool!