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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Wonder what Tim Smith thought when he was brought over to sort out his problems and then saw Hock has alledgedly doing this.
Surely someone within the club knew?'"
The fact is that, at the min the club is a joke. Lenagan has a lot of answers to give out.
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| Quote ="Earthworm Jim"They should be able to, warning players a test is coming is stupid'"
Not if you wanna make sure they pass its not.
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| Quote ="Earthworm Jim"They should be able to, warning players a test is coming is stupid'"
The club should do it randomly.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The coaching job for whoever takes it has just become a whole heap bigger/tougher!
We need an absolute monster of a coach to come in a discipline this shower of sh*te!
I said last week i wanted Brian McDermott............................even he may not be tough enough to whip these wasters into shape!'"
Truth is there's no one available..not at all.
We've got to make someone available or hope some people see the club is in a mess.
Someone who bleeds cherry and white, someone who takes no , someone who's achieved an incredible amount already and needs a new challenge.
Can only see what the next few weeks brings.
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"The fact is that, at the min the club is a joke. Lenagan has a lot of answers to give out.'"
We're not playing well and one of players has done something he shouldn't have apparently.
Joke is going a bit far mate.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The coaching job for whoever takes it has just become a whole heap bigger/tougher!
We need an absolute monster of a coach to come in a discipline this shower of sh*te!
I said last week i wanted Brian McDermott............................even he may not be tough enough to whip these wasters into shape!'" rambo aint tough enough for that lot.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Be realistic. They might say they do that but they don't. Clubs will do what they can to keep hold of a player, especially good ones if they can, players = winning =trophies=money.
Players only get caught when they totally fu@k it up.'"
Obviously it's Hocks own moronic mind thats caught him out but either way he deserves what he gets.
The Rugby League lads are lucky they aren't as closely watched as Athletes because if they were they'd be screwed.
This isn't just a rugby league problem though is it, it's a problem in general and what makes me laugh is how footballers don't seem to get caught up in it!!! All that money and going out 7 nights a week and not 1 high profile footballer gets caught out................brown envelopes spring to mind.
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| Quote ="aerofine"The name Wigan RLFC has been stuck deep down in the mud for 3-4 years! Maybe longer! I thought Lenegan was going to resolve some of these issues? What did he say at he first fans forum when he asked who felt that the name of the club was tarnished and most people ir not all agreed? Well Mr Chairman, its much more than tarnished now...more like deep set stainage'"
Lenegan, needs to call another fans forum. You never hear anything coming out of his mouth.
THE CLUB IS GOING BACKWARDS MR LENEGAN.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The coaching job for whoever takes it has just become a whole heap bigger/tougher!
We need an absolute monster of a coach to come in a discipline this shower of sh*te!
I said last week i wanted Brian McDermott............................even he may not be tough enough to whip these wasters into shape!'"
I think this could be the wake up call the club and players needed.
Anyone who maye have possibly been involved in activities similar to certain players will, if they have a single brain cell working pack it in and concentrate on their rugby.
We could see a lot of movement from October onwards.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"We're not playing well and one of players has done something he shouldn't have apparently.
Joke is going a bit far mate.'"
Recruitment, coaching situation, cig drug and booze culture. IL's first fans forum he said its time to stop the embarressment associated with this club (regarding SC issues) and get the club name out the gutter in the world of rugby. Well IMO the club has never been lower than it is now.
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"The fact is that, at the min the club is a joke. Lenagan has a lot of answers to give out.'"
Lenagan can't control the actions of the players 24hours a day. This has been a problem for years now and well before Lenagan took over.
He needs to get a tough coach in to discipline these players but away from the field theres little he can do apart from let them all know he'll sack anybody who gets caught...............even if it's not through the official channels.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Recruitment, coaching situation, cig drug and booze culture. IL's first fans forum he said its time to stop the embarressment associated with this club (regarding SC issues) and get the club name out the gutter in the world of rugby. Well IMO the club has never been lower than it is now.'"
I completely support the above statement.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Not if you wanna make sure they pass its not.'"
I see what your saying if potentially a club has X amount of 'star' players they fear will be caught, they need them to come through negative
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"The fact is that, at the min the club is a joke. Lenagan has a lot of answers to give out.'"
Your being harsh. Wigan RL could do nothing about a player taking a recreational drug in his own time. The only thing they can do is sack him which they probably will do if his B sample comes back positive.
Read some of this thread and it really seems some people are mixing up recreational drugs with performance enhancers. As a professional sportsman he should know better but alot of people take coke and he's clearly not done this to gain a sporting advantage. He'll no doubt pay a heavy price for his mistake now.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Obviously it's Hocks own moronic mind thats caught him out but either way he deserves what he gets.
The Rugby League lads are lucky they aren't as closely watched as Athletes because if they were they'd be screwed.
This isn't just a rugby league problem though is it, it's a problem in general and what makes me laugh is how footballers don't seem to get caught up in it!!! All that money and going out 7 nights a week and not 1 high profile footballer gets caught out................brown envelopes spring to mind.'"
Yep.
Drugs are part of society in 2009. It's just the way it is. I hate drugs as I've seen what they've done to people, but if we like it or not they are part of today.
Random drug tests etc are really good ideas, but they don't the reality of the situation. If clubs in most sports were honest the exposure to the press could literally end several clubs.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Your being harsh. Wigan RL could do nothing about a player taking a recreational drug in his own time. The only thing they can do is sack him which they probably will do if his B sample comes back positive.
Read some of this thread and it really seems some people are mixing up recreational drugs with performance enhancers. As a professional sportsman he should know better but alot of people take coke and he's clearly not done this to gain a sporting advantage. He'll no doubt pay a heavy price for his mistake now.'"
A recreational drug culture at any club is a hell of a lot more damaging than one or two taking performance enhancers.
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| Time to recall Mossop back from his loan spell and for him to step up.
Dont mean to be all doom and gloom, but the little bit of a chance of us finishing (excuse the pun) on a high this season, has now gone and we will be lucky to make the playoffs. Hock was a big game player.
Were one game away from Wembley though, just need to concentrate on this one game.
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| Quote ="Earthworm Jim"I see what your saying if potentially a club has X amount of 'star' players they fear will be caught, they need them to come through negative'"
All eventually comes down to ££££
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| From my experiences just like society it is rife within the sport, the funny thing is i have seen lads sail through the tests after only a day to get it out of the system.
Hock is sadly a drop in the ocean and hopefully will provide a wake up call to others in the game who are using the same substances.
Lets face it though is anyone remotley surprised it turns out Hock to be caught?
The sad thing is the club will probably slam him in public but stand by him in the background so that they do not lose out on his services in 2 years time.
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| Warrington will be VERY pleased with this news I would imagine, huge blow to wigan's season and coming seasons.
I'm very disappointed - Hock was a big part of any chance we had of competing in the 4N.
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| absolute idiot.
He deserves all he is going to get now after what has happened. I hope our club does the right thing and releases him.
braindead, absolute braindead.
young lee mossop may now get a game though.
hocky has just chucked his very promising career away.
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| Why should we or any other club want players to get through drugs tests even if they know they're taking stuff?
I don't care how good the player in question is he should get what he deserves and hopefully this will send out a message to everybody within the game.
In a funny way this could be a turning point for this club. It should show these morons we have playing for us what a privilage it is to have a job like what they've got and to be able to play for a club like Wigan.
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| Hock was my favourite player but if the allegations are proved he should be banned sine die.
Punishments in society are too lenient and that is why crime and drug use is rife. Even thieving MPs are not punished.
Children in school get a holiday (exclusion) if they misbehave really badly. Hock is a product of our soft society. Yes, he did have a choice but it's so easy to go down the wrong path if there is no fear of retribution.
There is a player at Hull K R who should not play ever again. So sad.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Yep.
Drugs are part of society in 2009. It's just the way it is. I hate drugs as I've seen what they've done to people, but if we like it or not they are part of today.
Random drug tests etc are really good ideas, but they don't the reality of the situation. If clubs in most sports were honest the exposure to the press could literally end several clubs.'"
Saying drugs is part of everyday is rubbish, its true but it does not make it any better. Gareth Hock is a professional. I dont get high off my face before I go to work or at the weekend.
Some people would give anything to be able to play for Wigan or represent this country, and this numbskull has thrown it all away for some silly thrill.
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