The general chat around the club - in training etc - is that he's injured. However, I can't point to a specific news article carrying this information, and don't have access to his medical records, so I can't give you a 100% guarantee that it's true. Neither however, can you guarantee that it isn't. Stalemate, I guess.

If anyone went to Hull they will have seen that Riddell was injured after about 5 minutes of the game when he was taking the ball up.

Noble said in the interview after the match that he really shouldn't have returned but with Carmont, Bailey, Richards and Phelps also injured that he had no choice.

He only had 11 fit men on the field at the end of the game.

Apparently picked up a knock on the hip in 1 game but he's also playing with quite a bad ankle injury, rumour has it.

I'd consider resting him for a couple of games.

It certainly is because it obviously doesn't fit your agenda.




Those stats tell me that he has not been as bad as many have painted him on here, and has certainly performed better than Higham.

The reason many on this board were pleased to see Higham go are exactly the reasons shown up in those stats.

Too many penalties and too many errors.

I can't be bothered pulling up the stats again but I'm sure you're quite capable of doing that yourself, but just have a look at Highams stats for last year.

Same same.

Even IF Riddell is injured, he's still distributing the ball far better than higham did/does. Then when Riddell is off the field, we get the solidarity of McIlorum in defence and the spark of Leuluai's footwork going forwards.

Again, you must be watching a different game to me.

Twice, he passed the ball to no-one in particular, and even the Sky muppets picked up on a couple of his head-high passes.

And you don't have an anti-Higham agenda?

That's very funny mate, well done.

Anyway, the Higham comparisons aside, Riddell is currently having zero positive impact on the side.

I suppose I will just have to wait until he is fully "Fit".

does it really matter?

Higham is a warrington player now, and doing just as well/badly there as he did for us.

like it or not riddell is our 9, nowt will change that, does it really warrant a 7 sorry 11 page discussion on whos best?

Riddel is getting injuries because he is so poorly conditioned. He arrived at the club in woeful condition. Surely as an experienced player he should be setting an example not a bad one. Remember his pre arrival promise about wanting to become involved in the reserves or academy. Exactly.

The argument is whether or not Riddel should be our 9. McILorum and Leulai offers a better combination than Riddel and another hooker.

You damage your own reputation by insisting on using statistics that do not show what you imply.

yes, you are

I agree maybe Rouges does have strong negative opinions about Micky Higham, but i can't say say if it's an agenda , i'm a new poster all though i have read the boards for awhile, and have read your thoughts on MARK Riddell , but what is your opinion on Micky Hihgam and him only . Thanks . I am wigan rugby fan and don't have any other agenda or share I P s. or user names, as it seems new posters are viewd with some suspicion atm.

I fully support ANY player in Wigan shirt. In Highams case he had three seasons at Wigan and never convinced me that he was good enough. How many mom awards did he win? How many times did you come away from the game and say Higham was outstanding today?

I certainly know the Wigan management team didn't think he was good enough from a conversation I was privy to.

There are many who post on here who have the same opinions as I do regarding Higham. I don't have an agenda, I just don't rate him as a player, smashing lad, but IMO Wigan did the right think in letting him go.


In the case of Riddell I have watched him on Setanta and liked what I saw. To dismiss him as a player after four games is ludicrous. Judge him after a season, I think that is only fair.

and theres the problem.
we have to wait till MM comes on to have a tackling hooker.

its an hookers job to follow the ball all over the park for the offload and to get ready for the play the ball.
its also his job to tackle owt that moves in the middle of the park in defense.

riddell isnt fit enough to follow the ball, and after bending down 5 times to get the ball from dummy half hes too knackered to tackle.......if he can tackle......im still not convinced he can.

I never said you had an agenda, i do read your posts as they are generally good. I was asking for jacks opinion on higham not yours .and where did i say anything negative about Mark riddell .

Apologies
It wasn't meant to be directed at you, it was a general comment about speccies being anti Riddell after only four games.

Think you need to watch the game again mate. That was Hansen.

THANK YOU SIR

Got to give him time. I have to say I am not impressed so far. I think he could have an issue with the speed of the PTB in SL as it is much much slower in the NRL as they throw more men into the tackle and the wrestle which slows it right down.

Im sure he will find his feet and settle in well once he gets going....interesting post from Rogues earlier that even though Piggy has not hit the ground running he has still made less mistakes and given away less penaltys than Higham so he is at the very least an improvement on higham so far.

I have seen enough of the pig in the NRL not to be worried. I think it's worth remembering how a large section of the fans wanted rid of Pat Richards to go after half a season. Give him time, he has the class and will come good.

I think people can accept that ad I hope he is gunna be a good un. The problem I have is if he isnt fit he should be gaining match fitness in the reserves, not plodding about in the first team looking like a slug. That is one of the things the reserves is for

Have the Reserves had any games for him to do that yet? Personally I'm happy to see him in the 1st team.

Yeah they played last thursday. He is clearly not fit s why should he be taking up a place for someone who is?
Admitedly McIlorum was suspended for the quins game

He's a better player would be the main one. Like I said, I'm happy to see him in the first team, whether or not anyone else is doesn't bother me.