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| Quote ="jonh"Because i have put my family first, i am now earning more money in a stable environment than i could ever hope to in rugby league, i was offered a position on the staff of a top SL club (not Wigan) which i refused due to the fact i have responsibilities and am not willing to risk these for trying to continue my coaching career'"
Its a pity you refused the job Jonh. You could of been the next GB coach. With your tactical knowledge we would be beating the Aussies in no time!
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"Its a pity you refused the job Jonh. You could of been the next GB coach. With your tactical knowledge we would be beating the Aussies in no time!'"
never claimed any such thing, you asked the question i answered, if you have a problem with that fair play now i still wait answers to the questions i raised, or do you think all is well at Wigan?
My opinion should not be taken any more or less seriously than any other poster on here it is all about opinions, but what does annoy me is when people fail to justify there opinion or deflect from the debate in question.
Stupid remarks like why do you not apply for the job just show the mentality of some posters.
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| Quote ="jonh"icon_lol.gif never claimed any such thing, you asked the question i answered, if you have a problem with that fair play now i still wait answers to the questions i raised, or do you think all is well at Wigan?
My opinion should not be taken any more or less seriously than any other poster on here it is all about opinions, but what does annoy me is when people fail to justify there opinion or deflect from the debate in question.
Stupid remarks like why do you not apply for the job just show the mentality of some posters.'"
jonh, i actually agree with where you are coming from, whilst i don't want us to lose next week, judging on what we have seen so far it doesn't really matter in the long run, because if we continue like this we are going to take a lot more beatings and probably heavier ones anyway. i don't think things are right at wigan, as you don't, but apart from doubting noble i also have big reservations about lenegan also. it is difficult to know which one is calling the shots.the fact that he declares himself a lifelong fan seems to deflect any blame for the way the club is being run from him. but the fact is since he took charge he has made some cheap make do signings which he is getting away with because of the previous owner and uncle mo, but he can't hide behind them forever.
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| Quote ="riversideboy"jonh, i actually agree with where you are coming from, whilst i don't want us to lose next week, judging on what we have seen so far it doesn't really matter in the long run, because if we continue like this we are going to take a lot more beatings and probably heavier ones anyway. i don't think things are right at wigan, as you don't, but apart from doubting noble i also have big reservations about lenegan also. it is difficult to know which one is calling the shots.the fact that he declares himself a lifelong fan seems to deflect any blame for the way the club is being run from him. but the fact is since he took charge he has made some cheap make do signings which he is getting away with because of the previous owner and uncle mo, but he can't hide behind them forever.'"
Things I've been hearing from people within the club, has fueled my reservations.
Before anyone ask's no I am not willing to post what I've been told up on a public forum nor will I reveal the identity of the person involved.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Noble didn't sign (want) Riddell, it was IL.'"
and it was IL who signed Roberts!
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| Quote ="Salty"and it was IL who signed Roberts!'"
TBF Roberts is a class act anyway. I'm sure Noble was more than happy to take him on.
Riddell, personally I haven't seen him play and thus cannot form an opinion on him.
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| Quote ="AJ"Clearly their are selection issues, we need to give Noble games to see if he can address those and get us on a run'"
My good god how many bloody games is he going to get?
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Back the club or Walk Away do not undermine the club How can Cas beating us on Friday be best for the club it might be best for your own agenda but its not best for the club.'"
remember when cas beat us at leeds ?
that effectivley ended JD ?
who would say that wasnt a bad thing ?
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| Quote ="AFewPintsLater..."My good god how many bloody games is he going to get?'"
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| Quote ="Salty"and it was IL who signed Roberts!'"
Is Noble part of the recruitment process or does he coach whoever IL brings in?
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| Quote ="AFewPintsLater..."My good god how many bloody games is he going to get?'"
A few games to see if he is brave enough to route out the non performers and bring in players who can do the job / select the correct team for the correct game.
Quote ="twosevenzero"5'"
Guess or literally?
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| Quote ="jonh"I personally hope Cas stuff us, so that we can see an and to the reign of Brian Noble, and have some hope for this season and beyond.
Bring back the Pearl.'"
Shaun Edwards, Wigan is calling, come home!!!
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Shaun Edwards, Wigan is calling, come home!!!'"
He won't.
Lam / Murray / Folkes will be our next coach.
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| If Noble had give the players abit more of a licence to chance their arm on Friday night we'd have won the game imo. We had the majority of ball and chances but went one out too often and paid the price for it.
He picked a team full of athletic ability again including 5 backrowers yet all we did was drive it up the middle and that asked far too much of Fielden, Feka and O'Carroll.
Noble needs to have a drastic re-think as to his gameplan for this side or he's going to be out of a job before too long. He has a good athletic team at his disposal yet continues to try and play the old 'Bradford way' of bashing down the middle.
We have better players then Wakefield or Hull yet lost both games because we played into their hands.
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| Well, a narrow loss at home to Quins and thoughts begin to turn to the JJB on Friday. I'm not sure how Cas will go tbh but I was very surprised to call in and see a thread titled "Come on Cas".
You seem to want Noble out pretty bad. Maybe we can cut some kind of deal?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"If Noble had give the players abit more of a licence to chance their arm on Friday night we'd have won the game imo. We had the majority of ball and chances but went one out too often and paid the price for it.
He picked a team full of athletic ability again including 5 backrowers yet all we did was drive it up the middle and that asked far too much of Fielden, Feka and O'Carroll.
Noble needs to have a drastic re-think as to his gameplan for this side or he's going to be out of a job before too long. He has a good athletic team at his disposal yet continues to try and play the old 'Bradford way' of bashing down the middle.
We have better players then Wakefield or Hull yet lost both games because we played into their hands.'"
Good post. Agree 100%.
The scary thing is both Salford's and Celtic's attacking game plans are years ahead of ours based on last night's game.
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| All the fans have wanted all off season is a good start to the season.
No disrespect to any of the clubs we were playing, but we had a p*ss easy start to the season. We shouldn't have had a problem until Leeds away, by which point we could have and should have already amassed 10 points.
Although I wouldn't go as far to say I hope we lose, I am certainly not delighted with Noble at the club.
I have thought all along, as well as Noble did to save us from relegation, that he was not the man to take us to silverware. And as for the fans who think he deserves an infinite amount of time to get things right because he saved us from relegation; we've sacked coaches who've actaully won silver ware in less time than Noble's had, and we've shown no signs of improvement under Noble.
The favourite word from the club, and a lot of the fans is stability, but what's the point in having stability if its wiith the wrong man in charge?
It is pointless sacking Noble until we have a replacment ready, but if I were IL I'd be looking for a suitable replacement, and as soon as one becomes available, I'd be showing Noble (as nice a guy as he undoubtedly is) the door.
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| Quote ="jonh"I think we have the best squad in years, i hoped Noble had improved as well, i was wrong.
What has Higham got to do with this, seriously are you his boyfriend? Every post is about Higham, i do not mind if you are homosexual fair play to you, i think the entire world is a lot more open minded these days and i hope he accepts your offer of a civil partnership one day, even though as far as I know Micky is straight, but you may wish to tone the hero worship down, its sickly.'" no its true cock dont try to twist it ,you have bummed up this riddell and bagged higham nothin to do with gay so quit that mate ,the tread is riddell if you look and my post is he is a total waste of time and selling higham is a disgrace ,you lot have disagread so i want to point out at this stage you all do not no anything about rugby with your wrong coments
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| Quote ="nickmanator"no its true cock dont try to twist it ,you have bummed up this riddell and bagged higham nothin to do with gay so quit that poop mate ,the tread is riddell if you look and my post is he is a total waste of time and selling higham is a disgrace ,you lot have disagread so i want to point out at this stage you all do not no anything about rugby with your wrong coments'"
You're judging a guy after 2 games, we're basing our opinion on Higham on 3 seasons. The platform for your argument is extremely weak, ours is considerably stronger.
Go troll elsewhere.
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| Nobby was stood watching cas/quins with the London fans today. Your next 2 opponents.
I'm not sure he would have walked away worrying to much.
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| Quote ="nickmanator"no its true cock dont try to twist it ,you have bummed up this riddell and bagged higham nothin to do with gay so quit that poop mate ,the tread is riddell if you look and my post is he is a total waste of time and selling higham is a disgrace ,you lot have disagread so i want to point out at this stage you all do not no anything about rugby with your wrong coments'"
The only thing i think you would like to twist is a finger till it is knuckle deep in a certain hookers behind, he has a family and is not that kind of lad.
Higham has nothing to do with this thread, or many others you simply push his name in.
Higham was average at best at Wigan, on paper the Wigan team and Riddell himself are far superior to Higham, that is still clear.
Run along nick try to form a valid opinion rather than having it clouded by dreams of Mick, that simply will not happen.
P.S. i never knew you were Irish
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| Quote ="jonh"Shock horror, unable to answer the question.
Who better to appoint than someone with a bigger ego than the lot of them? A dominant figure stamps out ego issues. They come in and take control.
You raised issues that need to be delt with by the coach, and then try to deflect away from your own points that you raised.
I await an answer to who you think should deal with the ego's in the dressing room, who picks the team and who plays a major part in the recruitment of the club? All issues you raise.
I think it is good you are going to bed so you cannot talk yourself into another corner. If you have the nouce to be able to answer the questions raised i look forward to continuing the discussion, i do not think you will though as you cannot.
Night night. The membership badge is in the post by the way.
'" i would expect noble would pick the team??, c'mon for a man of knowlege i thought that even you would have got that one??, but he picks from what he has, the damage at wiagn was doen many years before noble got the job, i read further on in your post that we were meant to have targeted buderas but ended up with piggy, so are we meant to be happy with second fiddle choices??, as i said the damage in tearms of the salary cap was done long before noble arrived. As for dealing with ego's in the dressing room, the coach would be the one to sort that out but, if there are enough players with ego's which there are at wigan it would be an almost impossible task, as i have said before the players run the rule over the coach...lokk at ian millward as your example of that one...we signed noble who as you claim before, could have been anyone to step in to replace millward as the team wanted to impress, so why have they stopped impressing???, and if we have a team good enough as you say who love the game of rugby league, why the hell would you wanna bum around and look dis-interested when on the fireld of play infront of 14,000 fans, because they dont want him there anymore and wnat to push the squeeze on gettin him out???.the recruitment of the club, well there again id like to think noble, but this is wigan and we know from experience that the coach's we've seen and gone have been the fall guy's in the past of some bad recruitment rumoured to be by an ex- chairman. in short these are problems we've had for years so to throw the buck at nobles feet is really lame imo.
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| What is wrong with being gay? I am a gay rugby player, Ian Roberts was a gay rugby player.
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