I'd rather have him than Dwain Chambers.

Dave

Phil Clarke backed Rovers before the game on the back of been the home side.

Clarke also stated Rovers wouldnt come back and score long range tries. Rather then bag him surely you must admit the guy was spot on with what he said tonight as he usually is throughout the season regardless of whether Wigan are playin or not?

You don't have to convince us!

It's the other teams fans who think he's biased towards us.
I thinkk he's pretty good, a million times better than Paul Verbal Diarroeah Cullen!

Come on, Comedy Cullen is worthwhile if only for the UPSTREAM!!!

We all know that Hemmings is a gimp who hates Wigan doing well but Clarky is a Wigan lad who represented the club magnificently. Of course he has an affinity towards Wigan but its no more than you would expect! He's the most knowledgeable commentator that Sky have and love listening to his analysis. The man talks sense!

Clarke must be 19th man, Mick Forshaw is 18th man surely - close to MOM tonight old Mick !!

Amos Roberts and Richards would beat most in a foot race.

You reckon? I am not sure they would. They would beat me and you in a foot race (!) but I reckon there are more pacey players around in SL.

Dave

I bet as a Pair there's not many clubs who have a Pair of 1st choice wingers that would beat them over the Length of the field.

Saints would snatch our hands off for our 2 x wingers over theirs!

I can think of perhaps two or three. Peter Fox and Lee Smith being it.

I don't remember either ever getting caught on a break

Kevin Penny, but he lets himself down by being crap at rugby.

And I don't recall either beating anyone on pace alone I think Richards has done a long range try once or maybe twice this season [ugiven a start[/u. Roberts has not scored one such try and I don't think either of them have left anyone for dead. And before anyone says "you can't expect Martin Offiah pace anymore" these two are not as fast as Mark Preston, Henderson Gill, Brett Dallas or even - dare I mention his name, Mark Calderwood. There is no substitute for pace.

Dave

Is this the same Phil Clarke that openly says how much he admires Stains?

NO. And I mean [size=200NO[/size Wigan fan would make said comment

I'm sure they play for diff clubs.


The fact that Jukes is tryna make is that we have two of the best wingers IN ONE TEAM. However they both Aussies so they both crap

People keep saying it and saying that but does anyone ever really question it? I think Calderwood proved that there is a substitute for pace, even in a winger things like the ability to outjump defenders (Richards), strength (Vainikolo) and agility (Robinson). I would back Calderwood to beat all three of those in a race, but I'd pick all three ahead of him. Of course wingers have to be fast but there's more to it than that. iIn my opinion a more accurate saying would be "There's no substitute for momentum"

Facts:
Great performance by Wigan
Great win for Wigan
Phil Clarke is an awful pundit and biased

Facts

It was a "Very Good" performance by Wigan
It was a "Very Good" Win for Wigan
Phil Clarkes one of the Best Pundits in the game.
Your talking Nonsense

Oh Sorry, those are opinions not facts - Apart from the last one!

Thats really made me laugh. id rather have a cone on the wing

I must have been watching a different Calderwood he was fast at Leeds but when he was at Wigan and now Hull, my 80 year old nan could out run him.

I bet she couldn't!

Along with 90% of the other wingers in SL!

Name me 1 occasion when at Wigan where he got in the clear and got caught?

Name me one occasion when he showed blistering pace both for us and FC. I know for a fact that a lot of FC fans think he is poor.

The giddy twins are shat commentators. Simple really.

Dave, your argument always falls down when you harp back to Calderwood as if he was some kind of genius who we should never have released.

The man may be fast, but his attitude was rank-poor while he was at Wigan. Ask any of the players or coaching staff.

It's no good having a guy who can run, if other aspects of his personality are causing problems in the team.

In any case, he's gone and I think you need to get over it.

Your dislike for Amos Roberts is well-known (though I still think it's part of your anti-IL prospectus), but to lump Pat Richards in with this is, to be honest, quite ridiculous. The 'best tries' tape that was played at the end-of-season awards dinner was interesting in that Pat Richards was involved in nearly all of them. It isn't just speed, you know - it's strength, courage, being in the right place at the right time, determination, etc. Mark Calderwood showed very few of these things while he was at Wigan, apart from in his last match, which did neither us nor him any good at all.

Think you're a tad harsh on Calders there. He always chased back when teams broke against us which few other players did. His main problem was that he played outside 2 centres who couldn't pass.