Cunningham was being tackled on the last, tackle WASNT completed, so he went in and finished him off, nowhere near the head, just unfortunate that it was on the knee area, didn't go to intentionally injur him whatsoever.

Sargeant went for Tomkins well after the ball had gone, off the ball, with his shoulder.

Stop pretending you're a reasonable man. You're another oafish gobsheizer of the sort we get on here all the time. You're an unimpressive phoney, and the more you bleat the more you sound like a sheep.

The kid was poleaxed in an off-the-ball incident. Fortunately for Sam, he's harder than Sargent, so it didn't matter, but it was still a nasty foul, almost comparable with Cunningham's face-smasher of a few weeks ago.

That's all that matters. Nothing else you say on this subject is of relevance.

Held hadn't been called so Tomkins completed the tackle to stop him offloading the ball!

End of chat.

Put you wigan blinkers away he went to injury him on purpose every 1 else knows this apart from you lot.

I suppose david howell had played for you and done what he did to tomkins if would have been fine.

Ah the same Howell who elbowed Tomkins in the face AFTER the whistle had gone..I do see the comparison

If you can stop someone offloading the ball by taking out the knees you must be due a contract from wigan.

Wont be long before someone belts him while ball is still in play and I have know doubt you will all be up in arms about the treatment of your young prodigy.

Congratulations - In the space of four sentences you have proved beyond all doubt that you know nothing about the game.

Sargent's shot was deliberate, late and high. If you have ever played the game you would know that there is a line you do not cross, and that late tackles on a player not (or no longer) in posession are out of order.

Based on your argument about the ball being in play we should be employing NFL style blockers.

If the RFL disciplinary panel have any balls Sargent will not play again this season.

Still, Sam had the last laugh. When Tomkins is leading the GB team out Sargent will be back in his rightful place, probably driving taxis or barrowing in for a living.

Stop talking wet. You were ripped apart tonight by the best young player in the country!!!!!

you mean like Howella nd Sergeant did?

Blinkered. indeed all you wigan folks are.

blinkered?...take the gimp mask off once in a while and watch the game

Are you Lee Briers? Serious question.

Tomkins had ball when howell hit him just unfortunate whistle had just gone.

As for sargent you can call him a thug all you want I have seen a lot worse from players from your team. this season and a few last year aswell.

He stopped him offloading by legally taking him down to the floor.

The fact anything at all was said about the incident was only as a result of Cunningham having a big girly winge. The same Cunningham that got away scot free with breaking a players eye socket the week before by giving him a sly dig in the face.

No.....Richard Myler plays for Salford. And he's allegedly the best youngster.

I believe its was the second or third whistle when Howell hit him..and to be honest our pack isnt aggressive enough to cheap shot.....anymore?

Have just posted a similar thing on the Cas forum, but personally I think Tomkins can be as good as he wants to be. All the skill in the world and great understanding of the game. I can see the comparisons with Edwards.

His attitude has been questioned and rightly so, he appears to be a very petulant and cocky young man. But so were some of the best half backs, Murphy, Edwards and Gregory. Players that the opposition fans and players wanted to see get smashed.

Hopefully he will continue to develop and prove to be a great player for England and Great Britain.

Quote of the night (Re: Sam Tomkins) Quote ="Legionited"I'm not particularly jealous because I don't like him and he's certainly not the sort I would want to see wearing a Cas shirt.'" viewtopic.php? ... c&start=15

Quote of the night (Re: Sam Tomkins) Quote ="Legionited"I'm not particularly jealous because I don't like him and he's certainly not the sort I would want to see wearing a Cas shirt.'" viewtopic.php? ... c&start=15

Be careful on the cas board..Disco will be asking you for a dual at the nearest service station

Quote ="MattyB"Quote of the night (Re: Sam Tomkins) viewtopic.php? ... c&start=15 '" Some of the comments on that thread make Dire fans look intelligent.

Quote ="MattyB"Quote of the night (Re: Sam Tomkins) viewtopic.php? ... c&start=15 '" Some of the comments on that thread make Dire fans look intelligent.

If we could only get that original thread back again eh!!

Keyboard warrior extreme....

Where's the thread where he cried when they were relegated? Best thread ever. Hard to take him seriously after that!

That Cas thread is ing magic, great read.

Tomkins is a great, young and most important of all a British player.

As a Cas fan he was the main difference between the teams tonight, whereas our go to guy (Chase) just wasn't firing on all cylinders.

Saying he is the best young talent in the country is arguable, as both he and Myler have been brilliant this year but i know that Wigan fans will be looking at it from your perspective and see Tomkins as the best. Both will be playing for England in the future which in my opinion is the biggest factor. I think its a toss up really.

The guy does have an attitude and for a rival fan he just seems to have the hate factor ala Sean Long. I'm not a big fan of his personality but in terms of talent i'd love him at Cas to pair with Chase.

A fair assessment for a change.
Re: The Hate Factor, is usually reserved for the best / most gifted player** of either your rival team, or a team you can't stand. For instance, does anyone at Catalans give you 'the hate factor'? Greg Bird maybe for obvious non playing reasons, but other than that? probably not. That's because I think everyone has a little soft spot for them, they play great rugby at times, are exciting and have grown massively in such a short time against all odds.

** Lee Briers being the obvious exception to this case.