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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Let him rot in Aus. He cant play for anyone as he is contracted to Wigan. If he's not here then he's in breach of contract and we have no obligation to pay him £5K a week.
We hold all the aces - assuming IL learned from the Edwards fiasco and actually got a signature on the contract.'"
Pretty certain a UK contract carries no weight in Australia.......
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| Quote ="Jordan Rankin"Quote ="muttywhitedog"Let him rot in Aus. He cant play for anyone as he is contracted to Wigan. If he's not here then he's in breach of contract and we have no obligation to pay him £5K a week.
We hold all the aces - assuming IL learned from the Edwards fiasco and actually got a signature on the contract.'"
Pretty certain a UK contract carries no weight in Australia.......'"
Pretty certain James Segeyaro thought that too...and he ended up in the wilderness for 6 months.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Pretty certain James Segeyaro thought that too...and he ended up in the wilderness for 6 months.'"
Oh yes, from Dec 2016 until March 17, he was right in that wilderness...... until he signed for Cronulla at the start of the NRL season.
Leeds held all the cards then, too....
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Pretty certain James Segeyaro thought that too...and he ended up in the wilderness for 6 months.'"
Yeah, right! Once Leeds didn’t pay him, his contact became null and void and he signed for Cronulla.
Now if Wigan want to carry on paying Hastings, they can try and claim he is their employee. But they won’t, because it’s ridiculous.
It’s just not legal for a company to force someone to work for them. It can’t be done.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"And on the matter of payment, as soon as Wigan don’t pay him, he’s no longer and employee and can do whatever he wants. Wigan have nowhere to go here. If he doesn’t want to work for Wigan, the club can’t make him. They could try to stop him signing elsewhere and sue him for BoC, but both are likely to fail.'"
Hastings doesn't turn up, then he is disciplined and fined. I seem to recall Joel Tomkins was fined, Bateman was fined and suspended, Carlos Tevez was fined by Man City for not playing. None of them had their contracts deemed null and void.
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| We don’t actually know when Hastings contract starts. He may not be in breach of anything if it only starts in Jan.
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| Quote ="muttywhitedog"Hastings doesn't turn up, then he is disciplined and fined. I seem to recall Joel Tomkins was fined, Bateman was fined and suspended, Carlos Tevez was fined by Man City for not playing. None of them had their contracts deemed null and void.'"
You can’t fine someone who doesn’t consider themselves to be an employee though.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger":d9e7xwr7Quote ="MadDogg":d9e7xwr7Pretty certain James Segeyaro thought that too...and he ended up in the wilderness for 6 months.'" :d9e7xwr7
Yeah, right! Once Leeds didn’t pay him, his contact became null and void and he signed for Cronulla.
'" he remains on the transfer list and is available to anybody who makes an acceptable offer.”
Hetherington confirmed Rhinos are also pursuing a separate action against the Papua New Guinea international for breach of contract.
Segeyaro joined Rhinos on loan from Penrith Panthers in July and signed a long-term contract two months later, but declined to return from a break in Australia, saying he had been homesick during his time in Leeds.
The Rhinos chief said there is now no possibility of the two parties getting back together. “James himself, through his manager, cancelled his contract by writing to us and confirming he would not be fulfilling the remainder of his contract,” Hetherington stated.
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| The writing was on the wall after the grand final. All the interviews he gave you could tell he didn’t want to play for Wigan.
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| Quote ="hatty"We don’t actually know when Hastings contract starts. He may not be in breach of anything if it only starts in Jan.'"
I believe all super league conttacts run from 1 november to 31 october,unless a player moves mid season
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| Quote ="MadDogg"That really is utter nonsense. Look at the quotes below. Leeds kept hold of him until they received a fair financial settlement as well as a replacement in Matt Parcell. Until that point he could go nowhere and do nothing.
“The situation with James Segeyaro has not changed, even though we have signed Matt Parcell,” Hetherington said. “James Segeyaro remains on our register and on the RFL’s register as well and he may well remain for the next two years.
He will only be off that at the expiry of his contract, ut he remains on the transfer list and is available to anybody who makes an acceptable offer.”
Hetherington confirmed Rhinos are also pursuing a separate action against the Papua New Guinea international for breach of contract.
Segeyaro joined Rhinos on loan from Penrith Panthers in July and signed a long-term contract two months later, but declined to return from a break in Australia, saying he had been homesick during his time in Leeds.
The Rhinos chief said there is now no possibility of the two parties getting back together. “James himself, through his manager, cancelled his contract by writing to us and confirming he would not be fulfilling the remainder of his contract,” Hetherington stated.'"
If you are basing your beliefs on Gary Hetherington, you’re crazy. As soon as Leeds didn’t pay him, he could do whatever he wanted as they were also in BoC. He may have committed the repudiatory breach, but that doesn’t mean the employer can’t commit a BoC too.
The way things stand legally is that either the employee or employer can terminate an employment contract. Whoever commits the repudiatory breach can be sued by the other party for BoC, but they need to be able to prove a quantifiable financial loss (and that’s not possible for Wigan). It’s also complicated by the fact that the employee isn’t in the UK, so you have to go to a pretty high (and costly) level to make anything legally binding.
Gary Hetherington is not a specialist employment lawyer. Leeds never took any action against Segeyaro because it would have been a waste of time and money.
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| For me Hastings is a Wigan player until I hear otherwise from him or the club.
I'm not gonna get too worked up that he hasn't changed his Twitter bio while he's on his holidays.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"That really is utter nonsense. Look at the quotes below. Leeds kept hold of him until they received a fair financial settlement as well as a replacement in Matt Parcell. Until that point he could go nowhere and do nothing.
“The situation with James Segeyaro has not changed, even though we have signed Matt Parcell,” Hetherington said. “James Segeyaro remains on our register and on the RFL’s register as well and he may well remain for the next two years.
He will only be off that at the expiry of his contract, ut he remains on the transfer list and is available to anybody who makes an acceptable offer.”
Hetherington confirmed Rhinos are also pursuing a separate action against the Papua New Guinea international for breach of contract.
Segeyaro joined Rhinos on loan from Penrith Panthers in July and signed a long-term contract two months later, but declined to return from a break in Australia, saying he had been homesick during his time in Leeds.
The Rhinos chief said there is now no possibility of the two parties getting back together. “James himself, through his manager, cancelled his contract by writing to us and confirming he would not be fulfilling the remainder of his contract,” Hetherington stated.'"
Yep
Leeds really showed him, didn’t they???
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| Moley commented couple of hours ago that he’s probably coming but needs to sort out couple of issues in his contract. My guess is something to do with money
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| IF there is any mileage in this at all then we need to be looking for a replacement now.
I assume he already has a verbal deal in place with someone else for 2021 and no doubt due to player movement etcthe potential to sign early has become a reality.
He never seemed to be fully committed to the move despite signing in my opinion.
He is a fantastic player but if his head is elsewhere we need to be covering all bases to find an alternative. If we can locate a replacement then let him go.
Using a marquee spot on someone whose mind is elsewhere for me isn’t an option.
This is of course assuming there is some truth in it, which to be fair their does seem to be.
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| Quote ="KingRoss11"Moley commented couple of hours ago that he’s probably coming but needs to sort out couple of issues in his contract. My guess is something to do with money'"
It's funny how we all bought into the story that Hastings was one of the good guys.
Clearly, he's one of the good guys if he's getting loads of money. If he's not, he's just like all the rest.
If he does end up coming here, I strongly hope it's for no more than one season. I'm all for players getting well paid, but anyone who's happy to publically blackmail the club like this when he's already signed a contract is the wrong fit. As someone else said, I'd start the search for his 2021 replacement at the very first opportunity and I wouldn't even try to hide it.
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| If he does come for 2020 (by some miracle, as I highly doubt it now) then he’s only himself to blame for the inevitability of the fans getting on his back if he isn’t firing on all cylinders.
His relative silence whilst constantly posting pictures and cryptic messages on his social media have made him look a selfish and ignorant prat.
Shame clubby didn’t clock him a bit harder, in that play off game.
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| I think Wigan need to cover all bases in case he never turns up.
Richie Myler is available...........
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| Quote ="CartHorse1984"I think Wigan need to cover all bases in case he never turns up.
Richie Myler is available...........'"
We’re ok for ball boys thanks
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| The cynical side of me thinks that if there was nothing to these rumours surely the lad himself would’ve addressed them by now...
It’s so frustrating that you’ve got a genuine world class player like Maloney coming over to Catalans and getting stuck in with no dramas, and a big club like us, have someone who’s not fit to lace Maloneys boots potentially try and back out of a deal.
Whatever happens from here this situation has done no favours for the club what so ever.
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| Quote ="Azul"
Shame clubby didn’t clock him a bit harder, in that play off game.'"
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| Staggered at some of the replies above. This is all Rumour. Nothing more. Put about by 1 Journo who hasn`t even spoken to JH. Those who are having a dig s should await a response from the man himself
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Staggered at some of the replies above. This is all Rumour. Nothing more. Put about by 1 Journo who hasn`t even spoken to JH. Those who are having a dig s should await a response from the man himself
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Thing is he could put it to bed in 10 seconds.
"Enjoying last few days back home, off to Wigan next week to get stuck in."
Job done.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Thing is he could put it to bed in 10 seconds.
"Enjoying last few days back home, off to Wigan next week to get stuck in."
Job done.'"
And change his bio. Which for someone who uses social media frequently would do considering he knows there’s a lot of eyes watching him.
Additionally don’t forget when a fan mentions changing his bio he replied with... “na”
Look a little closer. Apart from the very first signing interview Jackson has failed to mention or address Wigan at all.
I spoke to a former Wigan player who knows Jackson well, openly said Jackson wants out.
By Jackson’s own admission; Salford are the ONLY club he’s left on good terms. He’s no angel.
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| He’s not saying in Australia anyway that’s a fact, and that’s from the horses mouth...
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