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| Lockers v Farrell
Its tough one, id still say Faz, just, he was the perfect leader, he won us games single handedly, something Lockers is yet to do, Lockers is a world class player but he's no Farrell im afraid.
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| Quote ="Pieman2010"Lockers vs Farrell (Andy)
Strangely I'd go for Lockers due to the amount of service he has given. The lad took a lot of flack from fans under Millward/Noble but he has silenced the critics under Madge. Really nice guy and to get a testimonial at such a youngish age is fantastic. Plus Farrell only did 5 seasons (I think)'"
I think the world of Lockers and he's a cracking player but that ones not even close tbh. It's Faz by a distance. He was bigger, stronger, pacey for a big man, had a great step, was hard as nails, could play 13,12,10 or 6, was a better leader, scored try's, kicked goals and so on. He was here for a lot longer then 5 years as well.
Faz is an all-time great. The sort of player you produce once in a generation.
Lockers is all class but I'm sure he'd admit he's no Faz.
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| Faz v Lockers = I love lockers but Faz by a good way for me. I've never seen a more all round player or anybody more inspirational. Hanley with a kicking game!
Carney v Dallas = Dallas by more than a whisker. I'll never forget Carney's try at Headingly in play offs but all round Dallas was better. Ran above his weight more than anybody I've seen!
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| Quote ="Pieman2010"Lockers vs Farrell (Andy)
Strangely I'd go for Lockers due to the amount of service he has given. The lad took a lot of flack from fans under Millward/Noble but he has silenced the critics under Madge. Really nice guy and to get a testimonial at such a youngish age is fantastic. Plus Farrell only did 5 seasons (I think)'"
He was at Wigan for 13 years.
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| Lockers vrs Farrell
no contest for me, Farrell all the way
but put another name into the hat in the same position and Farrell comes nowhere near i'm afraid
Farrell vrs Hanley
put into a perspective like this just reminds you just how good Ellery was.Lockers is a great 13, Farrell was a brilliant 13, Hanley was out of this world at 13
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Quote ="Pieman2010"Lockers vs Farrell (Andy)
Strangely I'd go for Lockers due to the amount of service he has given. The lad took a lot of flack from fans under Millward/Noble but he has silenced the critics under Madge. Really nice guy and to get a testimonial at such a youngish age is fantastic. =#FF0000 Plus Farrell only did 5 seasons (I think)'"
Dear me.
wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=481
13th in the all time Wigan appearance list
Scored over 100 tries
Second all time goalkicker
Second all time points scorer
13 years service to Wigan
It's a no brainer.
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Quote ="Pieman2010"Lockers vs Farrell (Andy)
Strangely I'd go for Lockers due to the amount of service he has given. The lad took a lot of flack from fans under Millward/Noble but he has silenced the critics under Madge. Really nice guy and to get a testimonial at such a youngish age is fantastic. =#FF0000 Plus Farrell only did 5 seasons (I think)'"
Dear me.
wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=481
13th in the all time Wigan appearance list
Scored over 100 tries
Second all time goalkicker
Second all time points scorer
13 years service to Wigan
It's a no brainer.
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| Il throw a cat amougst the pigeons
Edwards v Gregory.............
Discuss...........................
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| Gregory wasn't my era, I started going in 92, but from the DVD's and videos iv seen, id say as an out and out organiser and RL player Gregory was the better player, but you cant argue with Edwards record.
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| Quote ="21-12"Il throw a cat amougst the pigeons
Edwards v Gregory.............
Discuss...........................'"
Edwards by a long way. Better all round game, better defender, much better kicking game, scored more, never threw a strop in a game. Better professional.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery". Better all round game, .'"
Id disagree with this, Gregory could find a whole and unlock any defence, Edwards was more of a support player. The Panapa try against Penrith sums Gregory up for me.
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| Quote ="21-12"Id disagree with this, Gregory could find a whole and unlock any defence, Edwards was more of a support player. The Panapa try against Penrith sums Gregory up for me.'"
You admit it wasn't your era. Watch the WCC came in Brisbane, probably as good a game as you will ever see from a scrum half.
Watch utube and have a looka t the Lancs Cup final v Oldham and note Edwards part in the long distance Lydon try.
Greg was a great attacking player (when he wanted to be) but wasn't that good defensively, and didn't have Edwards kicking or leadership skills. There's more to the game than attack and that's exactly why the Aussies are better than us, they realise the importance of defence.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"You admit it wasn't your era. .'"
It wasn't, doesn't mean I havn't seen countless DVD's and videos of both players. IMO Gregory was the ultimate half back. As I said though, Edwards record speaks for itself and is hard to argue with.
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| Dallas v Carney - Dallas every day of the week but id take Robinson over both
Lockers v Faz - Faz because he played multiple positions extremely well
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery". Watch the WCC came in Brisbane, probably as good a game as you will ever see from a scrum half.
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Seen it, about 500 times.
And Gregory's performance in 1989 CC final wins that award hands down IMO.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery" didn't have Edwards leadership skills. .'"
Id also argue with this, reading ex players books and watching games myself, iv never seen or heard of a player take a team around pitch like Gregory did. Just my opinion.
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| Faz v Lockers, Its gotta be faz everytime surely? Lockers commitment to wigan cannot be doubted and he is a great player but faz was the greatest leader I've ever seen (baring in mind I only started watching in around 2000) Whenever wigan where down he would be the one fighting to get through the line, screaming at the players either rollocking or organising. Will never forget the leeds game where he came back on with a broken nose and bandage round his head. and he was a superb kicker aswell.
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| Gregory was one of the most talented players I've seen. Edwards success was down to talent but mainly his work ethic. If Gregory had Edwards' level of professionalism he'd have been the best player in the world. Greg could win games on his own but he could also lose games. As talented as Gregory was, if I had to have one in a modern era team it would be Edwards.
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| Quote ="21-12"Id disagree with this, Gregory could find a whole and unlock any defence, Edwards was more of a support player. The Panapa try against Penrith sums Gregory up for me.'"
This notion that Edwards was only ever a support player astounds me.
Edwards' field kicking was pin perfect, his passing was fabulous. He had vision.
The Big difference for me was that Edwards was a total professional with complete and utter focus on his game. He studied the game and made himself good at it.
Gregory on the other hand was a very natural, seat of your pants type player.
Had both Edwards and Gregory studied and trained the same, it's frightening to think how good Gregory could have been.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Gregory was one of the most talented players I've seen. Edwards success was down to talent but mainly his work ethic. If Gregory had Edwards' level of professionalism he'd have been the best player in the world. Greg could win games on his own but he could also lose games. As talented as Gregory was, if I had to have one in a modern era team it would be Edwards.'"
Beat me to it.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"This notion that Edwards was only ever a support player astounds me.
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I didn't say he was. I said he was more of a support player, Gregory was more of a classy half back with a natural rugby brain.
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| yowyee ( or however you spell it) vs Idris?
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| personally i think idris
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| both yow yeh and idris play in a different position and there even unsure whether idris will play in the centres of back row so its hard to compare
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| Quote ="21-12"What?'"
think hes missed the point
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