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| Quote ="pocket*trout"If he ever goes missing, just look in the bookies'"
Betting on Saints to lose?
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| wigan calculator.
if we've loaned some players their wages are often paid or partially paid for by the club they are loaned to. This could help as well as mather's wage, which i know won't be as much as gleeson's but it'll be a hefty part of it.
Maybe just maybe playing for the club he loves and grown up supporting resulted in him accepting a pay cut. you never know.
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| I think this signing will also improve us defencively down that side as Gleeson has good positioning and lost of experience at centre which Bailey doesnt have, although he is a good defender.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"They would be f--ked even with Inlgis and Folau at centres
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kin ell beat Barrow by a couple of points did you ....
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| So who is stronger after this deal:
Wigan - yes, added a quality centre and lost a liability
HMRC - yes £100,000 richer
The Dire - no, lost a current international and replaced him with Richie Mathers
Gleeson was such a disruptive influence that Smith picked him for two years for GB and England.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"kin ell beat Barrow by a couple of points did you ....
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Try not to bite, there's a good lad.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"kin ell beat Barrow by a couple of points did you ....
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Kin youv'e some need to talk!
It would ve terrible if you went to a NL1 team on the Up and got beat like someone did at Hull KR a couple of years ago wouldn't it!
Who was that?? Remind me again!
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"kin ell beat Barrow by a couple of points did you ....
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7 tries to 3 actually.
Where are you in the league btw?
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| Quote ="odemwingie"They would be f--ked even with Inlgis and Folau at centres
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Yes, we're in such a bad state that we are a massive two points behind the Pies with one game in hand. And if you really want to wish Inglis and Folau on us, we'll happily take them and give the lie to your preposterous comment.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"So who is stronger after this deal:
Wigan - yes, added a quality centre and lost a liability
HMRC - yes £100,000 richer
The Dire - no, lost a current international and replaced him with Richie Mathers
Gleeson was such a disruptive influence that Smith picked him for two years for GB and England.
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What next Mathers for GB.....
PS: we cant blame Mathers in future unless he puts one over us for the Dire
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"kin ell beat Barrow by a couple of points did you ....
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Hmm 7 trys to 3 is not bad.
Wire fans never stop amazing me.
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| Quote ="roverspie"wigan calculator.
if we've loaned some players their wages are often paid or partially paid for by the club they are loaned to. This could help as well as mather's wage, which i know won't be as much as gleeson's but it'll be a hefty part of it.
Maybe just maybe playing for the club he loves and grown up supporting resulted in him accepting a pay cut. you never know.
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Right there. Although he did spend part of his formative years in Australia which is why he kept saying he wanted an NRL contract. And spent the best years of his career at Sintellins. And has also been moved on twice at the instigation of his last two clubs.
Yes he is at Wigan for the love of the club alright.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"So who is stronger after this deal:
Wigan - yes, added a quality centre and lost a liability
Wire - yes £100,000 richer
The Wire - no, lost a current international
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For your sake I hope you get the player formerly known ( in Saints and GB days ) as Martin Gleeson. He has been nothing more than a workmanlike centre for us for the vast majority of games he's played in the last three years, so we can do without him. Mathers has not been signed as a replacement for Gleeson, and only a fool would suggest otherwise. Mathers has had the same problem playing for you as Gleeson had playing for us - never recapturing his best form. We're short of a full-back so we'll take the £100k, a spare No 1 and start looking for a new centre.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"For your sake I hope you get the player formerly known ( in Saints and GB days ) as Martin Gleeson. He has been nothing more than a workmanlike centre for us for the vast majority of games he's played in the last three years, so we can do without him. Mathers has not been signed as a replacement for Gleeson, and only a fool would suggest otherwise. Mathers has had the same problem playing for you as Gleeson had playing for us - never recapturing his best form. We're short of a full-back so we'll [size=150take the £100k[/size, a spare No 1 and start looking for a new centre.'"
You might find that some organisation might take that 100k off you straight away
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"For your sake I hope you get the player formerly known ( in Saints and GB days ) as Martin Gleeson. He has been nothing more than a workmanlike centre for us for the vast majority of games he's played in the last three years, so we can do without him. Mathers has not been signed as a replacement for Gleeson, and only a fool would suggest otherwise. Mathers has had the same problem playing for you as Gleeson had playing for us - never recapturing his best form. We're short of a full-back so we'll take the £100k, a spare No 1 and start looking for a new centre.'"
To be fair, I think the deal works well for both parties.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"For your sake I hope you get the player formerly known ( in Saints and GB days ) as Martin Gleeson. He has been nothing more than a workmanlike centre for us for the vast majority of games he's played in the last three years, so we can do without him. Mathers has not been signed as a replacement for Gleeson, and only a fool would suggest otherwise. Mathers has had the same problem playing for you as Gleeson had playing for us - never recapturing his best form. We're short of a full-back so we'll take the £100k, a spare No 1 and start looking for a new centre.'"
Ouch, did you really need to edit my post to make yourself feel better.
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| Quote ="Glynola"They are really pushing the 'can play at six' angle, I wouldn't be too surprised to see him there a fair few games this season.
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I dont think we will see him at 6 unless we are struggling with injuries and really bad form.
I just think its a line Ian Lenegan likes to throw in when he signs players. He did it for Phelps and Roberts IIRC and they havent played at 6 yet.
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| Quote ="NickNJ"To be fair, I think the deal works well for both parties.'"
Yes we get a 1st teamer and they get a reserve player
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| Quote ="- Neil -"I dont think we will see him at 6 unless we are struggling with injuries and really bad form.
I just think its a line Ian Lenegan likes to throw in when he signs players. He did it for Phelps and Roberts IIRC and they havent played at 6 yet.'"
Agreed, there is an emphasis on players involved at all clubs across Super League with regards to versatility.
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Quote i love how the wigan fans are trying to goad us and are having 'a big laugh' at us when
1. He was going anyway
2. He's a shadow of the player he used to be
3. He's a sulker
4. He likes his liquid (interpret that as you like)
5. He's selfish (someone explain the concept of a winger to him)
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Wigan
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we don't care!
read TS's statement "committed players only"'"
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| My darling Elizabeth.
That spiffing Wolf fella has just given me a whopping big cheque for you for £100,000.
Hurrah.
Love forever.
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Is this the selfish centre that made Henry Fa'fili look like a world beater?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Classic on the Wire forum:'"
No his winger will score tries but he does have a habit of making the pass at the last minute. Faifili scored 25 tries in a season all from about 5-10m out.
However plenty of rubbish on here when so many of your supporters seem to keep forgetting that Smith doesn't want Gleeson and we have pocketed £100k. It isn't about Mathers.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Is this the selfish centre that made Henry Fa'fili look like a world beater?'"
Super leagues top try scorer one year IIRC
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