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| We were a freak bounce of the ball from winning exactly the same number of titles as Saints over the last 6* years. Sobering thought isn't it?
*Funny how Saints fans only start the count at the beginning of their run. I wonder why?
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| Quote ="Stu M"They must have one hell of a Reserves team…
To’o
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Fisher-Harris
Luai
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The above all played in our game. Massively unfair to the rest of the comp if that is their Reserves team. Needs raising with the NRL I think.'"
totally agree with this, bugs me when people say it was a reserve team, virtually full strength
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| Quote ="Stu M"Some laughable comments on here and expected arrogance.
The Premier team in the Northern hemisphere on the back of one GF win in 5 years.
Beating Penrith in English conditions at home apparently is a bigger achievement.
Comparing the most successful team in SL and the 4 peat winners to Buster Douglas is laughable. Absolutely laughable.
And people wonder why I want Wigan to get smashed.'"
I'd say it's arrogance & laughable to think you're anything more than Buster. Penrith are a great team - a generational one even. Compared to them and their achievements in a tougher league, neither Saints OR Wigan stack up.
It's laughable that Saints fans somehow think they are at that level. Do you really think you're in that bracket of a team?
I also stand by my comment of saying that, playing this smarting Penrith team, will be more difficult than the one Saints faced. Lie to yourself all you want, but they didn't take it seriously. They'll be levels above on the 24th. It will be much harder.
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| Quote ="Stu M"Some laughable comments on here and expected arrogance.
The Premier team in the Northern hemisphere on the back of one GF win in 5 years.
Beating Penrith in English conditions at home apparently is a bigger achievement.
Comparing the most successful team in SL and the 4 peat winners to Buster Douglas is laughable. Absolutely laughable.
And people wonder why I want Wigan to get smashed.'"
Well that's a big turnaround. Yesterday you were pretending that you could have been swayed into wanting Wigan to win if only Wiganers had given Saints more credit. Now we see the real Stu, you want us to get smashed. At least this is honest.
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| I couldn't give a rat's ass about whether Saints fans support us vs Penrith or not. In fact I'd rather they didn't.
If we win to go 'five stars' up then it makes the victory even sweeter.
If we don't, we remain on 'four stars' which is still more than them.
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| Why would any Wigan or St Helens fan care one bit about how much credit or support they receive from each other for their achievements?
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| Quote ="Stu M"Some laughable comments on here and expected arrogance.
The Premier team in the Northern hemisphere on the back of one GF win in 5 years.
Beating Penrith in English conditions at home apparently is a bigger achievement.
Comparing the most successful team in SL and the 4 peat winners to Buster Douglas is laughable. Absolutely laughable.
And people wonder why I want Wigan to get smashed.'"
How long do you think you will be the most successful team in the SL era ? also you are not that close to the most successful team in Rugby League history,you know the actual RL history and not just a portion. As stated more than once Penrith didnt know who St Helens were,but they sure know who Wigan are and will bring their A game to our place.
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| Saints fans want us to bow down to Jack Welsby and their 4 in a row (can’t believe they are still counting the 2 covid ones).
Meanwhile on Redvee they are hoping we get battered and all our best players do their ACLs.
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| I never would support saints even against the Aussies but Saint winning in Penrith is definitely a big achievement. The Aussies played it down. It would be good to get the win over them in Feb and I’m sure the same excuses would be thrown around. It was a reserve squad no match fitness all that crap. If we loose so be it but hopefully if we win it, it being 2 on the bounce to SL puts some credibility into the world club challenge for the Aussies.
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| Interesting to see how people view the WCC and also how they think we/SL clubs should be treated by the Aussies. For me and ,as much as I love the club, we aren't (literally) in the same league as most NRL sides & certainly not the top ones. The Aussies look down on us, because that's where we are as a league. People will talk it up, but outside a handful of games - it's dire imo.
I'd liken the NRL's thinking to the recent World Club Footy thing. I'm a neutral when it comes to football and I'm also away for Xmas, so wasn't able to watch the game. Trying to find the score this morning on the Sky Sports app wasn't easy. On top of that, how much talk has there been in the build up? I've seen mentions to it, but nothing on the scale of a proper big game. Why? Because we all know the southern hemisphere teams aren't on the level of those in UEFA. The odd result might say different, but we all know the CL champs are levels above 9/10.
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| I wanted Saints to lose before the game but with all the crap they were getting from the Oz media I was made up when they won.
I think we've all on to beat them and IMO it'll be as good as the Brisbane win if we manage it.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"I wanted Saints to lose before the game but with all the crap they were getting from the Oz media I was made up when they won.
I think we've all on to beat them and IMO it'll be as good as the Brisbane win if we manage it.'"
I thought that the Saints win was fantastic for them particularly after Penrith clawed their way back into the game. Aussies are and always have been poor losers. Always a ready made excuse if they ever lose.
The record books won’t give reasons why a team lost or won, won’t speculate if so and so had played the result would have been. It”ll just say Saints beat Penrith.
Probably the best ever result in the history of the St Helens club.
I say all that as a Wigan fan who jumped out of his seat when Penrith scored late on to take the game to golden point.
I think that we will have to be at our very best to even get close in February. A good wupping wouldn’t surprise me nor would a well executed plan on our part to give us a sniff of a victory. Can’t wait for the game which hopefully will be a sell out.
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| Quote ="NSW"Saints fans want us to bow down to Jack Welsby and their 4 in a row (can’t believe they are still counting the 2 covid ones).
Meanwhile on Redvee they are hoping we get battered and all our best players do their ACLs.'"
Lmao.
This right here is the most embarassing post I’ve ever seen. From someone who still dines out on his clubs success from 30 years ago when they were the only professional club. Funny how when everyone else went professional Wigan were left behind.
Anyway, I want to know why the Covid years don’t count. Come on tell me, this is going to be utterly hilarious
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| Now now it's the season to be jolly be nice boys lol
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Lmao.
This right here is the most embarassing post I’ve ever seen. From someone who still dines out on his clubs success from 30 years ago =#FF0000when they were the only professional club. Funny how when everyone else went professional =#FF0000Wigan were left behind.
Anyway, I want to know why the Covid years don’t count. Come on tell me, this is going to be utterly hilarious'"
Two factually wrong statements in two sentences. Poor effort Steph. Hope Santa brings you a girlfriend. Christ, you need one. Even if you have to pump her up first.
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Lmao.
This right here is the most embarassing post I’ve ever seen. From someone who still dines out on his clubs success from 30 years ago when they were the only professional club. Funny how when everyone else went professional Wigan were left behind.
Anyway, I want to know why the Covid years don’t count. Come on tell me, this is going to be utterly hilarious'"
This 'only professional club' myth is tiresome. Anyone would think this spanned a decade and not weeks/months (never mind the fact that Leeds went fully pro just before us and Saints just after us).
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| Quote ="RobRiches"Lmao.
This right here is the most embarassing post I’ve ever seen. From someone who still dines out on his clubs success from 30 years ago when they were the only professional club. Funny how when everyone else went professional Wigan were left behind.
Anyway, I want to know why the Covid years don’t count. Come on tell me, this is going to be utterly hilarious'"
you do get a lot of things wrong son
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Quote ="MattyB"This 'only professional club' myth is tiresome. Anyone would think this spanned a decade and not weeks/months (never mind the fact that Leeds went fully pro just before us and Saints just after us).'"
Exactly, and just to prove it here's a video of Leeds v Saints in 1992, please note the professions of players as shown on the t.v.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... el=Andy78L
The year after Wigan won the Challenge Cup with Andy Farrell becoming the youngest ever player to win the trophy, he was an apprentice joiner with Wigan council at the time!!
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Quote ="MattyB"This 'only professional club' myth is tiresome. Anyone would think this spanned a decade and not weeks/months (never mind the fact that Leeds went fully pro just before us and Saints just after us).'"
Exactly, and just to prove it here's a video of Leeds v Saints in 1992, please note the professions of players as shown on the t.v.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... el=Andy78L
The year after Wigan won the Challenge Cup with Andy Farrell becoming the youngest ever player to win the trophy, he was an apprentice joiner with Wigan council at the time!!
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| "Facts, we don't need no steenkin" facts".
With apologies to a couple of classic Westerns
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| Looking at the stadium map at a rough guess I'd say about 14k sold, not bad for the first week especially this time of the year, lets hope the club promote the hell out of this once New Year is over and done with
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Exactly, and just to prove it here's a video of Leeds v Saints in 1992, please note the professions of players as shown on the t.v.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... el=Andy78L
The year after Wigan won the Challenge Cup with Andy Farrell becoming the youngest ever player to win the trophy, he was an apprentice joiner with Wigan council at the time!!'"
Stop it Brian, our friends from over the hill have convinced themselves, for the best part of 40 years, that being the only fully professional team in the league gave us total dominance for a decade. You have now burst the bubble at a time when we should be welcoming to our fellow man. You should be ashamed of yourself you Grinch.
By the way, Saints didn’t have a bad side for an amateur outfit
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Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Exactly, and just to prove it here's a video of Leeds v Saints in 1992, please note the professions of players as shown on the t.v.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4Pc6kv ... el=Andy78L
The year after Wigan won the Challenge Cup with Andy Farrell becoming the youngest ever player to win the trophy, he was an apprentice joiner with Wigan council at the time!!'"
Stop it Brian, our friends from over the hill have convinced themselves, for the best part of 40 years, that being the only fully professional team in the league gave us total dominance for a decade. You have now burst the bubble at a time when we should be welcoming to our fellow man. You should be ashamed of yourself you Grinch.
By the way, Saints didn’t have a bad side for an amateur outfit
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| 15,000 sold. 8 weeks to go.
Sell out?
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| Quote ="NSW"15,000 sold. 8 weeks to go.
Sell out?'"
Possibly - North Stand seats might be difficult to shift. Over 20k will be fine.
Does anyone know who receives the revenue from ticket sales?
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| I`m no Wigan fan but the way Peet conducts himself and the way he turned the team round playing an attractive blend of rugby and giving youngsters their chance one cannot fail to be impressed.
I think you will win the treble next year and I will be hoping you stuff a team from Australia.
The only thing that might sour your win amongst other supporters and the Aussie press is the game being played here and not either in Australia or a neutral country like Vegas.
But good luck and hope you win from a Leeds fan.
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| I'm no Wigan fan, but I have always wanted the English club sides to win the WCC games and I will be in 2024 too.
As a fan of Leeds RLFC/ Rhinos the 1987 WCC game against Manly at Central Park is the best and also most memorable club game that didn't feature Leeds that I have ever been to.
The atmosphere at Central Park was electric that night.
What a win that was for Wigan but also for the sport in this country too
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