He's not had much luck since he come over. I always liked him in the nrl. Shame he'll miss the final.

I don't think he'd have been selected anyway. As already pointed out, Coley, Mossop, Lima, Prescott and Hock are probably all ahead of him, when fit.

He's done a useful covering job, though.

Gutted for him. Good luck at widnes next year.

From what I've seen and heard from Wigan fans I know, I wouldn't let gas hock anywhere near the final.

Hes looked very very unfit.

Up until today (admittedly against very poor opposition) I'd have agreed, but he played long spells today (as did all the props, with Cross getting injured) and always looked dangerous today. I think he's getting back to near full match fitness.
I think he gives that X-factor that you need in finals.

Think he just needs to get up to speed in defence IMO.

His attack is bob on, its like hes never been away. Superb offloader of the ball.

But Is he worth the risk in a final?

Wembley is a big pitch and a lot of energy is list thru nerves and he's not near match fitness.

I'm sure maguire will make the correct choice, it seems he gets most calls slot on.

I wouldnt pick him for wembley at this moment in time no, like I said his defence needs to get up to speed yet. But I wouldnt say he is very very unfit like you said. He has looked after himself extremely well while hes been away, credit to him.

All the best to him, havent had the best time whilst been over here.

Is it worth giving Eamon O'Carroll a run in the 1st team against Bradford? How's he been doing in the 20s?

Real pity about Cross... Was a very useful addition. Best of luck to him..

Have to agree here, too much of a risk in a final at this stage. The step up in intensity for the Wire CC game showed he's not quite there yet for me.

Don't you think that may be the reason he was played today!!!! MM is opening his options!! FFS,


You can't always play your best team... Players get injured. Should he be brought in "cold" if we need him!!!!

Where on earth did that little rant come from?!?

I never said play your best team every week, I'm aware people get injured, and yes, that is the reason I think he played today. My comment was agreeing with someone on Hock's suitability for the CC Final.

So don't 'FFS' me.

Shame for Ben.

Did anyone else not laugh though after he sustained the injury and just ran off the pitch? Then about 30 seconds later Coley ran on

Madge says its the kind of break that need plating......so season over

He was brilliant today, only bettered by Sam.
He ran strongly, always a handful, tackled well and his offloads, often with two or three in the tackle, were sublime.

Hard as nails that fella. He didn't even flinch!!!

gutted 4 him...really thought he wanted to impress,,,fans n madge alike always enjoyed watching him in the nrl..good luck at the chemics next season big fella...

Wouldnt have made Wembley anyway I dont think. I think Hock will, from the bench with Prescott, Coley & McIllorum. I can see Faz being the one to miss out for Hock.

Cross is a blow, and its cruel luck, but we need to look forward.

He remains an excellent signing for Widnes next year.

thats right

As a Wire fan I'm gutted, was hoping he'd be playing at the HJ. We will likely have Westwood, Grix and Morley all missing, so hasn't been a good week injury wise for us.

We have been without Gleeson, Fielden and Amos Roberts for most of the season... Do you hear us bleating?

the 3 u have had missing are no where near as instrumental as wire 3.
bleater

I'm loathed to get involved with a troll, but, you did see Gleeson, Fielden and Roberts last season didn't you?