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| Quote ="MattyB"So yet again, the RFL have set a precedent with Mossop being banned for a game despite having a good previous disciplinary record and having only thrown ONE punch.
Surely this means that this has seen an end to 'The Biff' in Rugby League and that all future offenders will face the same punishment whether televised or not?
I have full faith in the RFL to act with consistency and integrity going forward.
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Matty.
Please excuse me if I am wrong,but I thought that Mossop when he was cited for punching and entered an early guilty plea that this autamatically carried a minimum of a one match ban.
I posted earlier today that in hindsight he may have been better to let his previous disciplinary record be taken into consideration and throw himself at the mercy of the commitee.There may have been a chance that he may have got off with sending off sufficent.
My thoughts where based on the fact that Tuson threw several punches and got one match,whilst Mossop only threw one.
If I am misunderstanding the situation I apolagise.
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| sendinf off sufficient........may have been okay if Moose had been sent off.....but he didn't......
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Matty.
Please excuse me if I am wrong,but I thought that Mossop when he was cited for punching and entered an early guilty plea that this autamatically carried a minimum of a one match ban.
I posted earlier today that in hindsight he may have been better to let his previous disciplinary record be taken into consideration and throw himself at the mercy of the commitee.There may have been a chance that he may have got off with sending off sufficent.
My thoughts where based on the fact that Tuson threw several punches and got one match,whilst Mossop only threw one.
If I am misunderstanding the situation I apolagise.'"
I'm more concerned about the fact he was charged in the first place for a B grade offence. So in essence throwing ONE punch is now an automatic charge subject to appeal it seems???
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"sendinf off sufficient........may have been okay if Moose had been sent off.....but he didn't......'"
P Warrier,I accept what you say,maybe I should have said citing and having to be up at Red Hall was sufficent.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I'm more concerned about the fact he was charged in the first place for a B grade offence. So in essence =#FF0000throwing ONE punch is now an automatic charge subject to appeal it seems???'"
Aye but it was a good un.
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| Check out the last paragraph of Lee Mossop's bio on wikipedia
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| Lee "Sugar Ray" Mossop.
from wiki........classic........lol
On 27 May 2012 he destroyed St Helens forward and cheap shot merchant Shaun Magennis with a single blow with his enormous fist and was subsequently rewarded with a week off. Mossop, also known as the 'Cumbrian Colossus', is now expected to fight both the Klitschko Brothers for the WBO, IBF, IBO, WBC and WBA Heavyweight titles.[5
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| I am sorry but Hock is an idiot and head case who is costing this team! When he just focuses on his game he is a great asset. We had that game well and truly won, the Saints player was being petulant because the game had gone away. Hock should have just ignored the provocation and laughed in the players face. Hocks lack of discipline now means we are a weaker side going into two big games, as his actions caused the knock banning of other players. With his issues in the past, I would have hoped he would be more professional on the field. He doesn't have to prove what a man he is by getting into fights - all he needs to do is be the player he is capable of - that is the best way to respond. Now I fear the rest of SL will target his idiotic temper, to get him banned in other games, along with the penalties that go with it. Frankly Wigan should be tearing a strip off of him, and telling him to grow up. Also I think he owes it to younger kids who are watching the game, that there are better ways to react to poor sportsmanship. Sorry but I have lost any respect I had left over for the guy.
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| Quote ="Tacitus"I am sorry but Hock is an idiot and head case who is costing this team! When he just focuses on his game he is a great asset. We had that game well and truly won, the Saints player was being petulant because the game had gone away. Hock should have just ignored the provocation and laughed in the players face. Hocks lack of discipline now means we are a weaker side going into two big games, as his actions caused the knock banning of other players. With his issues in the past, I would have hoped he would be more professional on the field. He doesn't have to prove what a man he is by getting into fights - all he needs to do is be the player he is capable of - that is the best way to respond. Now I fear the rest of SL will target his idiotic temper, to get him banned in other games, along with the penalties that go with it. Frankly Wigan should be tearing a strip off of him, and telling him to grow up. Also I think he owes it to younger kids who are watching the game, that there are better ways to react to poor sportsmanship. Sorry but I have lost any respect I had left over for the guy.'"
Dont be so bl00dy soft.
He chinned a saints mon.
He should have got the freedom of the town.
why is Lee Mossop excluded from your criticism?
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| Quote ="Tacitus"I am sorry but Hock is an idiot and head case who is costing this team! When he just focuses on his game he is a great asset. We had that game well and truly won, the Saints player was being petulant because the game had gone away. Hock should have just ignored the provocation and laughed in the players face. Hocks lack of discipline now means we are a weaker side going into two big games, as his actions caused the knock banning of other players. With his issues in the past, I would have hoped he would be more professional on the field. He doesn't have to prove what a man he is by getting into fights - all he needs to do is be the player he is capable of - that is the best way to respond. Now I fear the rest of SL will target his idiotic temper, to get him banned in other games, along with the penalties that go with it. Frankly Wigan should be tearing a strip off of him, and telling him to grow up. Also I think he owes it to younger kids who are watching the game, that there are better ways to react to poor sportsmanship. Sorry but I have lost any respect I had left over for the guy.'"
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| Not being soft at all! Prove your hardness on the field of play where it counts. It was pointless getting into a fight at the point of the game and has now cost us dearly for the next two games. As for Mossop, I thought he was standing up for Tuson after the Saint's players dirty play - that I have some sympathy with - the same with Tuson. Besides I don't watch rugby league for the fighting - there are plenty of pubs I can to for that.
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| for f**k sake it's rugby league not 11 a side puff ball. Props have always had a dig at each other, part nad parcel of the game..... The ref just wanted to make a name for himself.....
As regards being weaker for next 2 games tell that to the players who get a chance to step up, bet they put in 200% effort.
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| I know fully well that it is rugby league, and that props have goes at each other. But Hock has a track record of it, and it is costing the team. It is not me being soft by saying so, not over the top either. It is expecting a player to be more professional and use his head. If this was a one-off event for Hock, I would be supporting him. But it is not. That is just my opinion, and I will stand by it.
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| Quote ="Tacitus"I know fully well that it is rugby league, and that props have goes at each other. But Hock has a track record of it, and it is costing the team. It is not me being soft by saying so, not over the top either. It is expecting a player to be more professional and use his head. If this was a one-off event for Hock, I would be supporting him. But it is not. That is just my opinion, and I will stand by it.'"
Was only a couple of years ago that everyone on here was saying how soft as a team we were, and that we needed a bit of aggression back in the pack.
Hock wins us more games than he loses, that simple for me.
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| Jesus christ are you lot still going on about this?
He's banned get over it.
It's not as if you'll need him anyway...play like you did Sunday and it'll be a Cricket score!
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| Quote ="RhinoLaney"Jesus christ are you lot still going on about this?
He's banned get over it.
It's not as if you'll need him anyway...play like you did Sunday and it'll be a Cricket score!'"
We are a broad church, with varying opinions.....
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| Quote ="RhinoLaney"Jesus christ are you lot still going on about this?
He's banned get over it.
It's not as if you'll need him anyway...play like you did Sunday and it'll be a Cricket score!'"
its a meaningless game anyway, only the play-off's matter.................
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| Quote ="[Gareth"its a meaningless game anyway, only the play-off's matter.................'"
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| Quote ="inside_man"Was only a couple of years ago that everyone on here was saying how soft as a team we were, and that we needed a bit of aggression back in the pack.
Hock wins us more games than he loses, that simple for me.'"
We have some aggressive players in the pack such as Lima. He has made a huge difference to the pack which is why I am so gutted he is leaving early. Micky Mac takes no prisoners either and Hansen is hard as nails. These players do not rise to the bait and so don't get sledged anything like Hock does and Hock does rise to the bait.
I think it is obvious this is the case. However I think a 2 match ban was well over the top. Other players with a reputation have been let off with less for similar offences and I think that is why the club appealed. Not because he wasn't guilty.
Ultimately I think the only player justified in doing what he did was Tuson for being blind sided and it is also clear Hock really needs to behave now because if he doesn't his bans will not be getting any shorter.
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| Quote ="DaveO"and it is also clear Hock really needs to behave now because if he doesn't his bans will not be getting any shorter.'"
I wonder how big Jim Mills would get on in todays game ?
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| It was nothing but a cheap shot from Moose
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| Quote ="fleabag"I wonder how big Jim Mills would get on in todays game ?'"
Different game isn't it. Professional as opposed to semi-pro and now with a disciplinary committee that can seemingly have it in for a player but strangely not others with similar reputations. So I guess it would depend on which side of the fence Jim ended up on. One of the favoured few who can get away with it or a target if they step out line.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Different game isn't it. Professional as opposed to semi-pro and now with a disciplinary committee that can seemingly have it in for a player but strangely not others with similar reputations. So I guess it would depend on which side of the fence Jim ended up on. One of the favoured few who can get away with it or a target if they step out line.'"
Even though Mills had an appalling disciplinary record AFAIK, he was never really hammered by the RFL.
It used to be fun watching teams 'wind him up' knowing full well that at any second, it often did result in him losing his temper and getting the red card. IIRC he has the worst disciplinary record for sendings off ever in the history of the RFL.
I take your point Dave and agree, that the RFL seem to have their own favourites and I am pretty sure that 'Gaz' Hock isn't one of them. Neither were Messrs Cowie and Skerrett before him.
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