Maybe swearing doesn't create an atmosphere, all I know is that at the HJ we play a similar tape before a game, and we have a woman who looks over the south stand like big brother and the slightest hint of a swear word or if you've instigated a song they don't like the sound of doorman type bouncers (not match stewards) turf you out 8/10 times. Now the HJ is worse than old Trafford for atmosphere, but yes maybe chants such as 'come on everyone' and 'we're quite upset because the ref doesn't like us and he's dead mean' would create the intense atmosphere we all enjoy...

I'm ashamed of fellow Wigan fans that either started or agree on this thread subject. It's cringe worthy and just need get with the times.

dont analyse my post to suit............point is.........theres an announcement made that its a family sport and racist and obscene chants are unacceptable ?

maybe i put the point over badly, but it still remains that some people cant accept the rules and want to challenge authority......i call then yobs if they do it outside a rugby ground..so what do we call then inside a rugby ground?............................exactly................yobs

oh dear

Trouble is it's socially acceptable to swear nowadays, pqrticulary the younger generation. Kids will hear far worse in the play ground so I wouldn't get too wound up over a rugby game.

took my son and daughter to both rugby and football ,now take my grandson.

told them all what happens at rugby/ football stays there.

not been a problem .

cant believe 14 pages for this topic ,some people just like to moan.

lets face it some of the chants are funny from whoever sings them, and sometimes the foul langauge adds to the humour, and although i would prefer it if the kids didnt hear them, thats life now unfortunatly dont make it right but thats the world we live in

I'd be more worried about some peoples action than what comes out of their mouth

You just hit the nail on the head!!!!!

What makes me laugh are the people trying to shield their little dears from swearing naively thinking that they won't hear that at school or talk like that when they are around their own peers. The same parents that let their children stay up after 9PM or buy them an 18 rated computer game or let them watch a 15cert film with occasional swearing.
If you like it or not it's ingrained in to society and a tape recording or a steward is never going to change it. People may bring up racism and tell us how that's disappeared in the grounds, the same people are still there, their views are the same but it's become unacceptable on so many more levels that they dare speak their warped views at a game.
Swearing will never even get close to being as socially unacceptable as racism.

It's hear to stay, so deal with it

I've read the same thread as you and I haven't seen anyone anyone post about letting their kids stay up late or play 18 rated games and the like. In fact I haven't even seen anyone say they don't think their kids hear swearing at school or anywhere else? Where are you pulling this from?

I brought it up, people like to shelter their little dears and then inadvertently become a hypocrite, besides i've also said i don't agree with it but realistically know it's never going to change in my lifetime.

Most people swear, it's more common than not in society. If kids or adults find swearing in a non-threatening manner so distressing then they're going to have a hard time in the real world.

If kids are brought up right, they know not to swear until they're at an age when it's up to them whether they do or don't.

Get real.

Eh? But you said you find it funny that people think their kids won't hear swearing at school and that it's the same people who let them play 18 rated games and such. Are you making up people to call hypocrites?

If kids are brought up right, they won't become adults who swear in front of kids.

Every time i get in to a discussion with you i'm on FM and you're on LW.
You pull me up on the little things rather than the general message.

In short

Nothing will change so don't be precious.

Otherwise you're going to go through life feeling a little worn out.

It's me on FM and you're on LW! Get it right!!!


To be fair, you were attempting to exacerbate the general message with your made up hypocrites. I don't personally see anything wrong with parents wanting other people not to swear in front of their children, I'd find it more odd if they didn't, tbh. Of course if they were also letting their children play 18+ games that would harm their position regarding swearing, but then that's why you introduced it.


I'm sure we can all manage to disagree about a great many things, including what is appropriate behaviour at rugby matches, without feeling worn out. I've even managed to ask other adults not to swear in front of my children, on the rare occasions that have called for it, without feeling worn out in life.

What a joke of a thread! Question for the people who get upset by swearing - have you ever sworn in your life? If you say no, you're f****** (

) lieing! We have loads of 'acceptable' songs that contain swearing, so I don't get why it's suddenly an issue.

Five times in a roooow
Five times in a roooooooow
You've played awfully dreadful
Five times in a roooow

Personally, I don't see any reason for the f word in that song.

Five times in a roooow
Five times in a roooooooow
You went and lost it
Five times in a roooow

Would get the point over equally as well.

This

Electric warrior, you sound like a busy body. The kind that has an oppinion on everything and an answer to go with it. The top and bottom is everyone knows that kids shouldnt hear constant swearing, but I also feel matches are no place for young children because of the bad language ect. (I'm not saying young children shouldn't be brought just a personal opinion) songs with occasional swear words are funny, abit tabboo and that's why people like them. If your going to tell people to mind their language you may as well follow your kids round your entire life. Remember back to when you were young, you would have heard swearing all the time, however you never used it because it was 'naughty' until you were at an older age. You have still turned out ok not wanting your kids to hear it, however it is just the excat situation, your kids will hear it and know it is bad, but if they have any respect for you they won't use it.

I have sworn?
Yes

Do I swear at full volume in a crowd of people?
No



Obviously people don't think they're acceptable, hence this thread.

It's something that's been brought up a few times this season.

this just gets worse , 16 pages

So the next time you take your grandson to the rugby and he says go and get me effing icecream you effing old c**t, would that stay at the rugby also???

Not quite sure that was his point, but congratulations on the over reaction.