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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"I don't, nor have I said to have. You obviously do so by stating that you CAN afford him so publish these and that will be the end of that.'"
No need to publish anything. If we couldn't afford him we couldn't sign him. As it stands we are signing him so we obviously can afford him. As has been mentioned numerous times before , the cap is live. Simples.
Why are you even persuing this? What answers do you expect to get from us?
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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"I don't, nor have I said to have. You obviously do so by stating that you CAN afford him so publish these and that will be the end of that.'"
But that's exactly the point; I don't need to.The RFL already do a live check, so before we were able to re-sign him we would have had to have the figures checked and approved by the RFL. In other words they WILL have all the wages paid etc. You, on the other hand, are questioning that the RFL have got it right, without any acces to the figures at all so, not unreasonably, I'm assuming you have some insider knowledge that the rest of us or, indeed, the RFL aren't privvy to. Don't tell me you haven't and all your spouting is just the usual drivel and sour grapes that we get from opposition fans on here? Surely not?
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| Quote ="Conroy"Well IL said it, so I'll take his word for it thanks
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Correct. I remember IL's first Fan's Forum when he took over.
There was a lot of bitterness in that room from supporters that the name of Wigan RL had been tarnished.
He stood there on stage and promised to the fans that such activities would never happen under his reign (which got him a standing ovation). I believe him.
The cap is live now so unless you run two sets of books (too risky) then it pays to play by the rules. And Wigan have......having brought through well over a dozen Wigan youngsters into the first team squad in just three years.
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| How did the Leeds meeting with HMRC go?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How did the Leeds meeting with HMRC go?'"
Was it a song or instrumental ?
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| I know there seems to be a precedent, but for the sake of 2 months it leaves a bit of a bad taste and looks like Wigan trying to wangle out of a (rightly imposed) drugs ban by crying that Hock might not be up to speed when his bans ends . . . . well d'uh, that's what a ban from training does and what it is meant to do.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How did the Leeds meeting with HMRC go?'"
When was that due to be held Rogues?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I know there seems to be a precedent, but for the sake of 2 months it leaves a bit of a bad taste and looks like Wigan trying to wangle out of a (rightly imposed) drugs ban by crying that Hock might not be up to speed when his bans ends . . . . well d'uh, that's what a ban from training does and what it is meant to do.
Not great PR.'"
To be brutally honest mate, I'm not sure anybody really gives a =#FF0000no need at all, pemps, its happening....Deal with it.
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"To be brutally honest mate, I'm not sure anybody really gives a f**k what you think, its happening....Deal with it.'"
Want me to explain the concept of a forum to you, potty mouth?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Want me to explain the concept of a forum to you, potty mouth?'"
not really I know how they work, you give your opinion and other people give honest views back......that was mine
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"not really
I know how they work, you give your opinion and other people give honest views back......that was mine
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well you'll also be familiar with the AUP then.
2.1. Comments that are wholly designed to upset or cause distress to other members are prohibited on this site.
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| Quote ="Pemps"well you'll also be familiar with the AUP then.
2.1. Comments that are wholly designed to upset or cause distress to other members are prohibited on this site.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzz
was only being honest
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| Quote ="Vectrabeast"zzzzzzzzzzzzz
was only being honest'"
Anymore 'honesty' and you'll be taking a break.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Anymore 'honesty' and you'll be taking a break.'"
Why thank you
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| Even when people are in prison they are allowed to train for a job for when they get out so they can get their life together and so they dont slip back into a life of crime. Letting a rugby player train unpaid for 2 months before his ban runs out so he can get his life back on track when his ban ends is hardly undermining the system.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Even when people are in prison they are allowed to train for a job for when they get out so they can get their life together and so they dont slip back into a life of crime. Letting a rugby player train unpaid for 2 months before his ban runs out so he can get his life back on track when his ban ends is hardly undermining the system.'"
Exactly. Opposition fans are only treating Hock like the criminal of the century because they know how good he is, and they know how good we will be with him.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Sin Bin? I think Gansen must be running this site, a Wiganer binned for freddie uck all!'"
=#FF0000Have some time off. Pemps
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| If Hock is allowed to return to training early, will we be fined for breaking the "spirit of the ban"?
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| Quote ="tyr"If Hock is allowed to return to training early, will we be fined for breaking the "spirit of the ban"?'"
No, but Castleford fans will be calling for us to lose our license over it.
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| Have to say I cant understand the logic in banning him from training anyway. He lost his lively hood and has not been able to play the game for 2 years surely that is enough! If he were in athletics he'd have carried on training as normal because its an individual sport. Banning him from training with his team mates is ludicrous - whats the point?
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| Quote ="Giz"Have to say I cant understand the logic in banning him from training anyway. He lost his lively hood and has not been able to play the game for 2 years surely that is enough! If he were in athletics he'd have carried on training as normal because its an individual sport. Banning him from training with his team mates is ludicrous - whats the point?'"
It's part of the punishment and being punished is actually part of how players are dealt with when they get caught doing drugs. It's not all about rehabilitation from the word go. Simple really.
In any case until he had proved he had reformed to the clubs satisfaction I doubt they would want him around the place anyway.
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| Well this turned out well.....
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| Quote ="JTB"Well this turned out well.....'"
Don't worry - we're getting Mick Cassidy as part of the deal
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