Back on topic...

...Wire will win the GF this season.

I think we can safely say, Duckie, that we've won far more with Wigan born halves than Warrington ever will with Warrington born halves even if we include the entire future of rugby league. I really don't think that is a profitable seam for you to try and mine, mate.

I think you'll find we've beaten you many times with players out of position and back rowers in the halves (or are the names O'Loughlin and Farrell new to you?

). That's really no excuse. In fact, let's be honest for a moment here, Hohaia was no more than a makeshift half anyway! It would be like us complaining we lost Powell from the halves and had to replace him with O'Loughlin or Escare. I'd take players out of position but 13 v 12 any day of the week. I have no doubts whatsoever that you would too.

Most definitely Phuzzy
I make no excuses for the poor yield from my town.
However we are the only town in the history of RL to have an NRL Immortal at halback.

Really showing your ignorance again here? Do you even watch rugby league?

You’ve actually had two and Wakefield one.
So your wrong. Again.

It won’t matter if you’re nervous, it will matter how the players feel and with their highly dubious record in these knock out games/finals, I’m sure they will feel plenty of pressure and dare I say even more so against Wigan then then they would against other teams (probably Wire aside now).

As for us, when we were near the foot of the table three months ago we certainly didn’t expect to be in the position we’re now in. We were flat, lacking confidence and looked to be going nowhere. You can believe it or not and again like you not feeling nervous, it’s a fan thing and I’m sure the players don’t think ‘anything would be a bonus’ but I do. We’ve gone from 10th/11th three months back to 2nd now, via injuries/departures we’ve had the chance to develop three excellent young forwards in Smithies, Partington and Byrne who’ll be part of this team for years now and we’ve seen an exciting recruitment drive for 2020 that gives us great hope past this season. Dare I say we also had more good news for 2020, with the best run of the mill game coach in the league deciding to head back to the NRL. If we get anything in 2019 it’s a bonus as I say but when a few months back people were genuinely worried about our future plans, with star players leaving, no coach in place, crowds dwindling, young players having not really burst through for a while to any great degree of success (couple of good wingers aside)and an owner who seemed to be losing interest, then we can be nothing but happy with how things look going forward.

A Grand Final win would be the icing on the cake but I’ve honestly never felt as easy about us winning it or not. We would like to win it whereas Saints really have to win it.

Thanks.

Your last sentence is bang on mate. If Saints don’t win it then it’s another season of failure I’m afraid and Holbrook will be remembered as a coach who flopped on the big stage.

As for Wigan, if you don’t win it then I’d also say your season has been a failure too. A season without a trophy should always be seen as a failure for clubs like ours, regardless of the fact you started slow and were struggling a few months ago.

On the contrary...Wigan have dragged themselves off the floor punching...Lam was dealt a terrible hand with a semi decimated team. This season is very much Lammies finest hour whether Wigan get to a GF or not.

This season will always go down as a season of transition regardless of us winning anything or not.

I'm pretty sympathetic to that in fairness. We can't go round calling ourselves the biggest club in world rugby and be happy to come away with no pots.

Having said that, sometimes you have to make allowances for circumstances, look at direction of travel of the team, and adjust expectations accordingly. Having to cope with playing 2-3 kids in the pack for big minutes all season, coming to terms with a new way of playing after years of a very rigid style under Wane and dealing with the instability of earlier in the year were all big challenges that have been dealt with as well as we could've hoped for. Most of us are pleasantly surprised that we're well in with a shout, so if it turns out to be a failure it will be a pretty glorious one.

Push comes to shove, we lose a final/semi final we're not going to go around crowing about how good the season has been, but there are plenty of factors which make this a particularly challenging year for Wigan to come out on top. Next season will be different.

All fair points

And Hull FC had one.

Which other Warrington born halfback other than Bobbie Fulton is an Aussie Immortal then?

I've just had a refresher look and I'm pretty sure only Bobby Fulton was British born.

So it’s just a grasp of basic English and stringing together coherent scentences that is your issue?

List here https://www.2gb.com/nrl-drops-immortals-bombshell/ St Helens had one in big Mal

List here https://www.2gb.com/nrl-drops-immortals-bombshell/ St Helens had one in big Mal

Thanks...
The town of Warrington has the only British born player in the Aussie Immortals.

It's a pity they've never produced any for England.

Is that what you mean, Brian.

Quote ="Trainman"List here https://www.2gb.com/nrl-drops-immortals-bombshell/ St Helens had one in big Mal'" But he wasn't a halfback

Quote ="Trainman"List here https://www.2gb.com/nrl-drops-immortals-bombshell/ St Helens had one in big Mal'" But he wasn't a halfback

I assume you mean Peter Sterling, sorry he wasn't.

The Immortals
Player Inducted NRL/NSWRL Premierships
/ BRL Premiership
Clive Churchill 1981 5
Bob Fulton 1981 3
Reg Gasnier 1981 7
Johnny Raper 1981 8
Graeme Langlands 1999 4
Wally Lewis 1999 3
Arthur Beetson 2003 3
Andrew Johns 2012 2
Dave Brown 2018 4
Dally Messenger 2018 3
Frank Burge 2018 0
Norm Provan 2018 10
Mal Meninga 2018 5

Yes, now edited. Thank you.

..and neither was he British.

This is what you said

You didn't say "Born" in the town
You didn't say born in a British town, so there plenty of Australian "Towns" that have had them.

You need to be much clearer when you respond otherwise people will reply to your actual words, not what you may have been thinking.

In other words when when you said 5 games ago the the Wolfs wouldn't lose another game, you were wrong.
What you may have meant is that they wont lose another game as long as it's the challenge cup final, then you would have been right.