The whole referring system has is killing the game from within.

Sports become a shadow of its former self.

Makes me cringe watching.

That happens after every game at Headingley - encourages people to stick around and continue spending £££ with the club.

Leeds were superb!

I said in the car on the way over that if Leeds can a couple of quick tries and the crowd get behind them we could be in trouble.

Very soft underbelly from us, such passive defence on our own goal line.

Newman is some player and has won his England place in my eyes tonight.

The Cooper knock on was a bit of a game changer (felt we were on top and rolling them).

It’s deffo brought everyone down to earth and we’re probably not as good as we think we are.

Going forward,

IMO Cust needs a few weeks on the bench. Defensively very poor, leaves most of the kicking game to Harry Smith and has yet to throw any killer try assists.

We should go French 1, Field 6. We can’t afford for Bevan not to be around the ball. Leeds knew on shift plays they could just target Field. Miski was in decent form post Spurs so give him a go.

Centres also obviously an issue. Think Halsall deserves a go and KPP (first bad game tonight) should go there when Bateman is back.

Disappointing but that’s sport for you. We’re still a good shot at the GF if we play well.

The only highlight tonight was the fact it was a 15 minute drive back home for me.

Hopefully behind closed doors Peet rips into them big time because that performance deserved it - basics that would embarrass a pub team and totally out-enthused by a team missing a number of players. The only time I can remember Leeds not scoring when they got into our twenty was when they kicked in the first half after the breakaway and decided to kick when there was a four on one overlap. The passing wasn't much better.

If ever a performance lost a team their days off that was it - I hope they have enough tackle bags.

Well it was me who started this thread so I thought I'd comment on my early thoughts. Maybe it wasn't just me who had early overconfidence this week (at least I put 'should' and not 'will'), this quickly disappeared in the first ten minutes. What a damp squib of a game that was, Leeds definitely did their homework on us although I feel we were the masters of our own downfall for at least 3 of their tries. Weirdly I think we missed the experience of Singleton and Mago.

Hey-ho. Bad day at the office, Leeds fully deserved the win, let's pick up the pieces and put up a recovery against Hull KR.

Five home games out of the last seven, we should be nailed on for a home semi-final. We just need to get back to basics. If we treat games like a seven aside competition then we will continue to come unstuck. The forwards need to make the hard yards and put us in field position where our backs can work some magic. I am confident we will be going to OT.

Far, far too many errors. Very poor tonight.

And that try between the legs, how on earth was that allowed ?

Your penalised for obstruction, but THAT was allowed ? Even Leeds fans are querying that decision .

Poor performance all round. Isa and Bibby proved once again how much we desperately need 2 centres, surely Halsall should be recalled now?

French/Field tried but were ultimately anonymous - I don’t lay the blame at their feet BTW, it’s just indicative of how poor our offense was on the whole.

Just like beating Hull 60-0 didn’t define our season, losing 42-12 to Leeds doesn’t either. What’s key here is that the players and coaching staff learn the hard lessons taught and improve. Wilkin was spot on in his comment after the game in that “no one outworks St Helens”. We got outworked and outenthused, if we realistically want to win SL that cannot happen again.

Bad loss, bad performance. Learn from it, move on and improve.

Just watched the tries back on Sky this morning . How a team that prides itself on its defence become collectively so poor at tackling is mind boggling .

There was a young blonde schoolgirl in the kids games in front of the Wigan fans a half time that tackled everything .and tackled everything well . The Wigan players could learn a few lessons there . Lol

We lost to a better team on the night,it does not define our great season so far,Leeds deserved it without question.

Done and dusted now,lets move on.

Why would you say that Leeds beat us fair and square,I dont disappear when we lose,bad day at the office and move on.

I never said we are the best team ever so no need to patronise me you prick.

Any news on Cust he get taken off because he had a bad game or was he not 100%?

Last night it was 17 individuals waiting for someone else to do the hard work and just doing enough to get through the game in the shadows.

They say there's nowhere to hide on a rugby pitch but quite a few players tried to last night - Cust, KPP, Isa, Bibby, Marshall. Byrne was a liabilty in defence last night shirt grabbing, throwing lazy arms out and woeful on his own line.

The Leeds crowd really got to some of our players and put them off their game.

There was only Field, French, Farrell and Powell who tried.

We need Miski and Halsall in the side asap. Saints and now Leeds have mastered how to snuff Field out of the game by rushing up out of the line, so we need to start kicking behind their centre for our winger to peg them back.

Just taken off to change things up Peet said

Agree with this.

Isa has been a great servant to Wigan however he is unable to consistently perform to a good standard, age and the brutality with which he has played over the years is catching up with him.

I personally have been a big advocate of him getting games over Halsall however I now think it’s time to give youth a chance.

I have absolutely no inside information on this it’s just a total hunch but given Huddersfield have just signed Naiqama I wouldn’t be surprised to see us making a move to potentially pair up Leutele and Wardle at Wigan which may see Isa retire/move on despite having another year on his contract.

She was amazing, best player on the pitch. The heart of a lion. Even more impressive as she was playing on a team of four players against a team of five and she scored about four tries.

This is the same poster who went missing for 7 days when we beat Saints in the semi. Has a track record for it to (under all his pseudonyms).

She was unplayable!

Was right in front of us, it was the only bit of rugby I enjoyed all night!

Well I wasn't expecting that!

I'm not usually over confident before any game but I was expecting a win albeit it might be far tighter than the bookies were suggesting.
As a previous poster said from minute one we didnt look at the races.
Leeds were obviously fired up with a good game plan to boot which they executed with some aplomb.

As a team we played poorly and if I'm honest if Leeds, with a little bit more patience, could and probably should have put 50+ on us.
Leeds bagged Field and we had little else to offer in attack.
As a few have said a bit pointless picking out individuals to "blame" for he result as no one stood out and most players played well below par and basically were not up for the fight that a good Leeds performance demanded.
A few players, particularly Field, look in need of a rest that will be difficult to deliver with every remaining game being crucial if we are to get the 2nd spot.

What the match did fully expose is our lack of good quality centres and for me once again demonstrates "shuffing in" a second rower is clearly not enough against any decent team. We need 2 centres before 2023 and anyone thinking that we can get away with just 1 is living with the fairies. If Halsall is available but doesn't getg selected against HKR then I can only assume he is probably on the way out which would mean as a squad, for me, we would need 3 new centres for the squad.

Not the end of the world but a good kick up arris that perhaps a few players and coaches may have needed.

Leeds look to be turning the corner which was was painful for me last night but is a major plus for the game. The Leeds fans generated a really good atmosphere last .

She has the best side step I've seen for a long long time.
Great to watch her play with such enthusiasm.

The centre position needs urgent attention. I look at Huddersfield and for 2023 it’s likely they’ll have 3 or 4 senior centres in their squad from a list of Cudjoe, Leutele, Wardle, King, Naiqama and Bibby. As things stand for 2023 we have Thornley and that’s it (plus Halsall but I’m referring to senior options). We need at least one centre for next season and ideally two (certainly if Halsall continues to be overlooked). I must admit last night put a pin in my preference of going for Thompson at the expense of other signings. We have to fix up the issues at centre first before looking at anything else.

You'd think that after last night if Halsall doesn't get a run at centre soon there's not much hope for him, only other explanation is the staff have decided stopping at Newcastle rather than dipping in and out of the first team is better for his development

He shouldn’t be dipping in and out of the team. If he is not considered a better centre than Isa and Bibby then the club need to show him the door. Personally, I think he should be in our 17.

I do wonder if they'll go after Bibby if they can keep hold of Leutele to be honest I don't think they will