Nobody will touch him in case he sues the shiznit out of them.

But in all seriousness you have two very underrated and effective props in Paul Prescott and Lee Mossop. The quality in depth of the Wigan pack is unreal, this can be highlighted that when Mossop was going off one of my mates said 'Although it's not nice to see somebody injured, that helps our cause for the GF.' I replied to that by saying 'It doesn't matter they still have Cross and Hock to come in.'

The quality of depth of your pack is something which you undoubtedly rule over in SL, with Huddersfield coming next. I'd argue that Saints' starting 6 can be better than Wigan's on a given day but when you compare the fact that your Gareth Hock and Liam Farrell = our Matty Ashurst and Andrew Dixon it shows how much Saints lack in depth.

I read somewhere not that long ago that Madge was working on the forwards being more involved with the play and creativity. Seems its working!

It was a very clever play. Leeds didn't expect Prescott to pass which left a gap for a big fast guy like Lima to go thru

I think it's something thats done the opposite for Graham. At one point, it was a very effective tool.

Nowadays though, whether its because he fancies himself as a halfback or (the more likely scenario) because he is having to play ridiculously long minutes in a 1 man pack, he does that move far far too often and it has lost the element of suprise.

I wouldn't say we've got a one man pack. Th forwards have done very well this year and it's our lack of creativity from the backs thats been our problem.

Graham - been a workhorse and played long mins( tbh not had the best season)
Roby - been awesome and will be contender for MOS
Lms - been average but showing he's strarted to settle
Sia - had great season
Wilkin - been awesome and had his best season since 2006
TP - another great season by the big man

Its not a clever play its just dumb defence.

Stunning that players are willing to over commit at this level.

Millward got Balu doing it, its as basic as it gets and highlights just how far behind the NRL we are when this is seen as a clever play. Its a forward taking it to the line and passing the ball.

Arti Beetson was doing this 30 odd years ago.

Which there was an awful lot of from Leeds, despite all the chat about how well they played.

Three of Wigan's tries were walk-overs from near the line. That's disgraceful defence from a supposed top side. And dubious refereeing decisions had nothing to do with it. It wouldn't have made any difference had the pass to Lima for his second been half an inch further back, while Tommy grounded the ball cleanly - we were very close and saw that he had the ball firmly in the crook of his arm (the fact that he happened to but his hand on the ball afterwards was irrelevant).

I'm glad you've cleared that up. It wasn't very clear from the various camera angles shown on tv. Its good that somebody who saw it once at real speed from the "very close" stands can confirm to us what actually happened; thanks.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but three separate people at Wembley told me Liam Farrell is off to Widnes. Now they may have all got it from the same person or even known each other but the fact they all gave the same reason got my attention. According to them he wants regular first team action.

that's the problem with having a good squad, some good players who would be in a starting 13 in some other teams can't even get a seat on the bench when all players are fit.

No worries. Your education on this site continues apace.

PS: In case you'd forgotten, after being viewed from these many angles, the try was given.

Doubt that, in the past year hes played and won in both the CC Final and Grand Final, hes hardly not getting any first team action! PLus didnt he just sign a 5 year deal? If this is true its a very stupid move on his part.

Especially as Hoffman is about to head home.

Is this the education where eventually after much point scoring it is acknowledged that a player whose contract is paid-up does not count on the salary cap and that in relation to the Chris Hicks transaction, which is where the exchange started, the person in question had no idea about what had occurred?

I don't post unsourced rumours but it was the fact three separate people told me. I think the lad's a really good squad player and I wouldn't want to lose him.

I can't see it being true to be honest. He signed a deal to the end of 2015 last season for one thing. In any case, it's his first full season as a regular first teamer so it would be more than a bit cheeky of him to be making demands to be playing regularly, especially as he was just picked to play at Wembley ahead of Gaz Hock and Ryan Hoffman is going back to Melbourne at the end of the season

Can't comment on exchanges you may have had with other people, or with regard to Warrington players' contracts, of which I know nowt and have never claimed otherwise.

I commented on what I saw happen right in front of me.

Not need to panic its not [u[iLIAM[/i[/u Farrell that wants to leave, there are other players at the club with the same surname

Aye Nosey Parker reckons Connor Farrell has turned down 3 offers from Wigan and may head to Wire.

Don't know anything about him tbh.

Connor is Liams brother, and plays for Wigan U18's
Wire wanted to sign him two years ago.

Any good?

Knowing Nosey Parker he'll probably sign a 5th deal at Wigan now.

Isnt a member of the family a scout for Wire?? I'm thinking Peter but have I just made that up??

You might have noticed that once that certain poster is struggling he seems to bring out something completely unrelated to the discussion and disappears. Not for the first time either.

Peter is Andy's dad and is head scout for wire

One would think like the Bridge brothers wanted to be together at Wire. Connor would like to stay at Wigan with Liam.

Damn you Wire! Get your own youngsters!