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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"With the loss of such a respected coach, is there trouble behind the scenes at Wigan?
You can't blame this loss on the salary cap, he's not gone as an international coach and they can't offer him a good university deal. Why has he left? Did he just fancy a change?'"
Quote ="Saint_Marc"I will get in there first....sale offered him £3m and a new york apartment to leave wigan etc etc'"
Poor efforts both. I'm sure if you really tried you could do better than that.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I'm not sure that Ray Unsworth leaving Wigan - good lad, but he's been around a bit - indicates there are problems at Wigan as much as the appointment of Simmons indicates there are problems at Saints.'"
I'm hoping he's learnt a bit under Sheens, but sometimes these appointments work out, sometimes they don't.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Poor efforts both. I'm sure if you really tried you could do better than that.'"
It was a genuine question. Andy Gregs post makes a lot of sense, more so than the post linking to the story that is making out it's devastating for the sport.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"I'm hoping he's learnt a bit under Sheens, but sometimes these appointments work out, sometimes they don't.'"
The same philosophy applies with Unsworth.
His record at that level is pretty good, but someone at Wigan has decided that he isn't worth what Sale are offering him. He won't be the first coach to have left since the new regime came in, and he won't be the last. It may prove to be a mistake (either for him or for us), or it may not. We have to trust in Lenagan and Maguire.
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"I will get in there first....sale offered him £3m and a new york apartment to leave wigan etc etc'"
you really are a sperm.
get back under your rock you came, and stop boring us to death.
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| People saying that this is just the same as when league took players from union but in reverse are slightly wrong I think.
I can't see any rugby league clubs ostracising players for changing codes, banning them from club events, blacklisting them from party and function invite lists, remoiving their names from club records or scratching out their faces on pictures/photos in the clubhouse.
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| What IL has to be slightly careful of, is that MH doesnt cherry pick from the back office. But, this will give MM the chance to appoint another RL person. Im sure he will appoint the right person.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"The same philosophy applies with Unsworth.
His record at that level is pretty good, but someone at Wigan has decided that he isn't worth what Sale are offering him. He won't be the first coach to have left since the new regime came in, and he won't be the last. It may prove to be a mistake (either for him or for us), or it may not. We have to trust in Lenagan and Maguire.'"
Reading that article just came on the back of me being told something (not from a Saints fan btw) that may indicate that you aren't as wealthy a club as some of your fans like to think you are, it just piqued my interest (and I thought I'd throw a bone out with that initial comment abut trouble at t'mill ).
It's just one of those things, that is just made more likely with Mick Hogans change of jobs. I think Harlequins improving youth system is a legacy of Leneghan's time there, so it's not as if you've got an owner that is likely to let that area slip at all.
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| Quote I'm not quite sure that Frank Endacott is such a friend of Wigan as many fans believe.
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Think he's a friend to those players he represents - which is as it should be. Agents shouldn't lean to any club surely.
And.....good luck to Thornley I hope he does well as I would if he signed for anyone!
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| Quote ="fido"Think he's a friend to those players he represents - which is as it should be. Agents shouldn't lean to any club surely.'"
Sports agents are only interested in one person.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"People saying that this is just the same as when league took players from union but in reverse are slightly wrong I think.
I can't see any rugby league clubs ostracising players for changing codes, banning them from club events, blacklisting them from party and function invite lists, remoiving their names from club records or scratching out their faces on pictures/photos in the clubhouse.'"
This statement above just proves what RL had to put up with for 100 years.
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| Quote ="fido"Think he's a friend to those players he represents - which is as it should be. [uAgents shouldn't lean to any club surely[/u.
And.....good luck to Thornley I hope he does well as I would if he signed for anyone!'"
No-one's saying they should, but some Wigan fans I know are always glad to see Happy Frank at the DW Stadium. My argument is that they shouldn't be.
He's not some old hero returning because he has fond memories of the place. Where Endacott is concerned, those days are long gone.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Reading that article just came on the back of me being told something (not from a Saints fan btw) that may indicate that you aren't as wealthy a club as some of your fans like to think you are, it just piqued my interest (and I thought I'd throw a bone out with that initial comment abut trouble at t'mill
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well people better make there minds up.
because we cant be giving 3 aussies huge money and be poor at the same time can we
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| Quote No-one's saying they should, but some Wigan fans I know are always glad to see Happy Frank at the DW Stadium. My argument is that they shouldn't be.
He's not some old hero returning because he has fond memories of the place. Where Endacott is concerned, those days are long gone.
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ahhh get you now. Yeh he's there to get the best deal he can for those who hire him (otherwise his money goes down as he'll be on a percentage). That's his role and I'm sure he makes sure he does it well otherwise the players would be sacking him.
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| Iain Thornley scored on his debut for sale on friday night. came on as a sub and played on the wing.
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| Quote ="jimlav"Iain Thornley scored on his debut for sale on friday night. came on as a sub and played on the wing.'"
Well done Iain Thornley.
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| Iain Thornley & Stefan Marsh to Sale RU?
One went, the other didn't. If ever a thread should be locked...
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| Hope he enjoyed playing in front of 5k supporters against the team at the top.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Hope he enjoyed playing in front of 5k supporters against the team at the top.'"
He won't have that problem for long, because Mick Hogan is going to find them 15,000 new fans - all from Wigan - when they play their 'exhibition game' at the Reebok.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"He won't have that problem for long, because Mick Hogan is going to find them 15,000 new fans - all from Wigan - when they play their 'exhibition game' at the Reebok.'"
Even if I got sent a free ticket, I won't be one of them.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Even if I got sent a free ticket, I won't be one of them.'"
Same here
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| Quote ="Cruncher"He won't have that problem for long, because Mick Hogan is going to find them 15,000 new fans - all from Wigan - when they play their 'exhibition game' at the Reebok.'"
I actually think they'll go close to selling it out. I'd expect a minimum 20k on for the game.
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