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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Good opposition;Leeds,saints,wigan,hull FC,Huddersfield.
Average;Bradford,HKR,Wakefield,Castleford,catalan.
Abysmal;Salford,quins,crusaders.'"
Where do wire fit in?
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| So if Moz and Carvell don't get a ban i reckon this is line up 1st xiii
can a pie fill in what they think will be your line up.
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2. Riley v
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4. Bridge v
5. King v
6. Briers v
7. Myler v
8. Morley v
9. Monaghan v
10. Carvell v
11. Westwood v
12. L Anderson v
13. Harrison v
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"So if Moz and Carvell don't get a ban i reckon this is line up 1st xiii
can a pie fill in what they think will be your line up.
1. Mathers v Roberts
2. Riley v Pryce/Goulding/Ainscough
3. Atkins v Gleeson
4. Bridge v Carmont
5. King v Richards
6. Briers v Tomkins
7. Myler v Leuluai
8. Morley v Fielden
9. Monaghan v Ridell
10. Carvell v Coley
11. Westwood v Hansen
12. L Anderson v Tomkins
13. Harrison v O'Loughlin'"
I expect. Tough one. Would have been a lot more confident with Phelps though.
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| I would only choose Morley, Carvell and Monaghan over our players from that list really. Maybe Riley as well.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I would only choose Morley, Carvell and Monaghan over our players from that list really. Maybe Riley as well.'"
Really????....Honestly???.....
Hansen over Westwood???....Tomkins over Briers???...Leuluai over Myler????......
In all seriousness, when you compare the sides like that, player for player, there really is nothing between the sides, and is the main reason why next week's game should be a good one.
I don't believe in any position there is anywhere where either side is significantly superior, except perhaps in the front rows, where Wire outdo Wigan, which whether Wiganers like to admit it or not, is the reason they want to see Morley & Carvell banned.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"I don't believe in any position there is anywhere where either side is significantly superior, except perhaps in the front rows, where Wire outdo Wigan, which whether Wiganers like to admit it or not, is the reason they want to see Morley & Carvell banned.'"
Wigan's 3/4's and even our makeshift FB are significantly better than Wire's imo. You're right about the front row though.
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| Quote ="Dei Morti Viventi"Wigan's 3/4's and even our makeshift FB are significantly better than Wire's imo. You're right about the front row though.'"
Its all opinion, but don't see anybody in your three quarters who I would fear in an Offiah/Robinson type of way....Both sides have good steady three quarter lines, but nothing that sets them apart in a big way.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Really????....Honestly???.....
Hansen over Westwood???....Tomkins over Briers???...Leuluai over Myler????......
In all seriousness, when you compare the sides like that, player for player, there really is nothing between the sides, and is the main reason why next week's game should be a good one.
I don't believe in any position there is anywhere where either side is significantly superior, except perhaps in the front rows, where Wire outdo Wigan, which whether Wiganers like to admit it or not, is the reason they want to see Morley & Carvell banned.'"
I never said we were better man for man. I'm not saying those players are better. I just would not trade any players other than the ones mentioned.
Tomkins v Briers - The most exciting young half back in the game who won YPOTY last year and stared in the 4 nations, or an old player with not long left and a poor reputation?
Hansen v Westwood - Both are workers, both take the ball in well. Hansen is the best defencive SR in the league.
Leuluai v Myler - Leuluai is far more versatile and far far better in defence, from what I have heard he is also a great guy to have around at training.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Really????....Honestly???.....
Hansen over Westwood???....Tomkins over Briers???...Leuluai over Myler????......
In all seriousness, when you compare the sides like that, player for player, there really is nothing between the sides, and is the main reason why next week's game should be a good one.
I don't believe in any position there is anywhere where either side is significantly superior, except perhaps in the front rows, where Wire outdo Wigan, which whether Wiganers like to admit it or not, is the reason they want to see Morley & Carvell banned.'"
You would rather have Lee Briers over Sam Tomkins. Sorry but i jsut stopped reading after that
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Hansen is the best defencive SR in the league. '"
lol no he isn't.
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Really????....Honestly???.....
Hansen over Westwood???....Tomkins over Briers???...Leuluai over Myler????......
In all seriousness, when you compare the sides like that, player for player, there really is nothing between the sides, and is the main reason why next week's game should be a good one.
I don't believe in any position there is anywhere where either side is significantly superior, except perhaps in the front rows, where Wire outdo Wigan, which whether Wiganers like to admit it or not, is the reason they want to see Morley & Carvell banned.'"
I want both of them to play, I want us to beat the best you lot can offer. If we win great, it will instill more belief into the team that we can beat an above average side or if we do lose, we can go away and learn from it, either way Madge will take the positives and we will be a better side for the hit-out... Can't wait for the game.... Just another 5 days at work to get through..
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"You would rather have Lee Briers over Sam Tomkins. Sorry but i jsut stopped reading after that
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Forget the fact that Briers is an annoying tit to anyone that isn't Primrose and Blue
or the fact that he spent far too much time in the pub
or even the fact that he used to play 50% of the season anonymous.
He is without doubt the cleverest player in Superleague and on top form is untouchable and unplayable.
Tompkins on top form v Briers on top form. Briers any day of the week and that is without the blinkers
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Great response old boy.
Next time think before knocking people for not going an away game.
Uber fan.'"
Don't be rude. Seriously uncool.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"icon_confused.gif:
Forget the fact that Briers is an annoying tit to anyone that isn't Primrose and Blue
or the fact that he spent far too much time in the pub
or even the fact that he used to play 50% of the season anonymous.
He is without doubt the cleverest player in Superleague and on top form is untouchable and unplayable.
Tompkins on top form v Briers on top form. Briers any day of the week and that is without the blinkers'"
The difference is that if Sam stays at Wigan we'll get 10 good years out of him.
When Briers retires he will look back at his career and must think why did I give 10 good months when I could have given 10 good years. He must be gutted he had to leave Saints as well considering the success they had.
He might have a good swansong to his career but for me he wasted it. Should have had far more test honours than 2 caps was it, 1 v France and 1 v New Zealand "A".
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Forget the fact that Briers is an annoying tit to anyone that isn't Primrose and Blue
or the fact that he spent far too much time in the pub
or even the fact that he used to play 50% of the season anonymous.
He is without doubt the cleverest player in Superleague and on top form is untouchable and unplayable.
Tompkins on top form v Briers on top form. Briers any day of the week and that is without the blinkers'"
Is this post a joke? Or are you being serious? Its hard too tell on here so sorry if you are joking.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Is this post a joke? Or are you being serious? Its hard too tell on here so sorry if you are joking.'"
Putting my banter aside if you think Sam is better than Lee you know nothing about rugby.
Forget future potential blah blah blah I'm on about THIS week
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Is this post a joke? Or are you being serious? Its hard too tell on here so sorry if you are joking.'"
Go sleep on it. It will be clearer tomorrow.
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| Quote ="Bilko"The difference is that if Sam stays at Wigan we'll get 10 good years out of him.
When Briers retires he will look back at his career and must think why did I give 10 good months when I could have given 10 good years. He must be gutted he had to leave Saints as well considering the success they had.
He might have a good swansong to his career but for me he wasted it. Should have had far more test honours than 2 caps was it, 1 v France and 1 v New Zealand "A".'"
Briers' coaches have been disciplinarians (Van de Velde) and soft (Cullen) with him. It is Smith's method of discipline that has worked the best for him, obviously.
Overall you are right in what you say, although, he had to leave Saints. Goulding's antics were not so apparent at the time.
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| Warrington fans are unbelieveable! If it wasnt so sad it would be funny. Not so long ago most were hoping Briers was off to Barrow so they could 'move on as a team' now he's the best thing since sliced bread. Tomkins isnt even peaking yet and he is as good as/better than Briers at his peak now. It may be your opinion but i know who i would rather have in my team. And i know who most other rugby fans (bar Wire) would rather have in theirs. But i guess we all know nothing about rugby then
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Warrington fans are unbelieveable! If it wasnt so sad it would be funny. Not so long ago most were hoping Briers was off to Barrow so they could 'move on as a team' now he's the best thing since sliced bread. Tomkins isnt even peaking yet and he is as good as/better than Briers at his peak now. It may be your opinion but i know who i would rather have in my team. And i know who most other rugby fans (bar Wire) would rather have in theirs. But i guess we all know nothing about rugby then
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Warrington fans are unbelieveable! If it wasnt so sad it would be funny. Not so long ago most were hoping Briers was off to Barrow so they could 'move on as a team' now he's the best thing since sliced bread. Tomkins isnt even peaking yet and he is as good as/better than Briers at his peak now. It may be your opinion but i know who i would rather have in my team. And i know who most other rugby fans (bar Wire) would rather have in theirs. But i guess we all know nothing about rugby then
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Rogues, bookmark this one.
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| Like him or loath him, on his day Lee Briers is a sublime Rugby League footballer. I've loathed him mainly for what I feel has been a waste of a tremendous talent, the guy could have been GB/England stand off for years. He's capable of bits of skill and game reading that very few players in Super League can even come close to matching.
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| Quote ="tiesto_80"class
everyone of those avrage sides finished higher than you last year'"
True. But we seriously underachieved last year,lost our first 5 games before smith took over and found it difficult to recover. Smith had no time to put his own plans into place,pre season had already gone. So it was damage limitation and he went for and won the competition he could realistically win last year,the challenge cup. This year we have had a full pre season under smith and the difference can be seen already. Last year's team would have lost to cas and beat quins by about 12 points. I also believe that HKR over achieved last year and predict a mid table finish for them this year,similar to where yourselves will finish when the novelty value of a new coach wears off and the hiding you take from the first decent team you play this year,wires next saturday,brings you all back down to earth with an almighty bang!
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Where do wire fit in?'"
Why........first of course!
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"True. But we seriously underachieved last year,lost our first 5 games before smith took over and found it difficult to recover. Smith had no time to put his own plans into place,pre season had already gone. So it was damage limitation and he went for and won the competition he could realistically win last year,the challenge cup. This year we have had a full pre season under smith and the difference can be seen already. Last year's team would have lost to cas and beat quins by about 12 points. [uI also believe that HKR over achieved last year and predict a mid table finish for them this year,similar to where yourselves will finish when the novelty value of a new coach wears off and the hiding you take from the first decent team you play this year,wires next saturday,brings you all back down to earth with an almighty bang!
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Rogues, Never mind getdownmonkeyman's request to Bookmark Mother Feka's Post!
I'm remembering this one!
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