Shaun Briscoe
Peter Fox
Gareth Ellis
Lee Smith
Ryan Hall
Danny McGuire
Sam Tomkins
James Graham
James Roby
Adrian Morley
Sam Burgess
Jamie Peacock
Sean O'Loughlin

Subs
Scott Moore
Gareth Carvell
Eorl Crabree
Kyle Eastmond/Kevin Sinfield

That would be a case of cutting your nose of to spite your face.
If Smith (T) thinks Smith (L) is the best avaialble then he's 100% correct in including him.

Yeah i think he will go with Myler at 7 aswell to be honest

I don't understand why Smith's inclusion is so supprising. He's only 23, and could very well come back to RL.

He'll play McGuire at 6, don't know who the 7 will be though, Myler i'm guessing... To be honest I don't think the team is as bad as everyone is making out, the props are decent, the only concern for me is the centres - Someone said Gleeson doesn't deserve it? Why not? I have no worry with Gleeson as our centre for Wigan or England, he's safe and his defence can't really be questioned, plus he's got experience?

Ah well, be interesting to see what happens

I've no doubt that if the team do well the majority will do what they always do... claim they never had any doubts

it may get smith sacked as coach if we get battered,,is that a bad thing? lol

I wouldn't play McGuire at 6 even if he was the last 6 alive.

Swap Moore and Roby and I agree. I would be tempted to play Sinfield at hooker if I am honest, I think that might happen, smith did it alot with Sinfield at leeds

I know he is fast but there has to be someone better than Fox. Ever time I see him he makes basic RL mistakes.

As for Sinfield he will be broken in half if he gets on a field with the Ozzies or NZ. You will be able to smell the fear when he gets on the field.

And Sykes, laughable, truely laughable. I bet when he got the call he said 'is this a joke?'.

Think Smith will step down anyway. Sure its his last year now and not heard anything about contract extensions.

What about Bridge

we are in trouble in the backs, big time.

Tomkins, Eastmond and Myler must all be given a chance just for our future chances and I don't think they can do any worse than the others.

that's why I said "arguably"

slightly OT, looking to book some tickets for the England game a your place, how many rows are are there in the north/south stands? booking them online and its giving us row Y.

TIA

Whilst Bridge's inclusion is a bit of a shock, I must admit that all the negativity towards his abilities are a bit baffling....



Having seen Gleeson at Wire for the last 3 or so years, I can promise you all that Bridge brings as much to the table as him in the centres.

His main problem throughout his career has been the fact that he was always a bit of an enigma at stand off...Tony Smith took a gamble on him at centre, and to be honest, he looks a different player.

Not saying he is a World beater, but he defintiely isn't the dud some of you lot seem to believe.

Row Y would be about half way up. They go through the alphabet and then again ie AA, BB etc

To be honest any seat at our place is a good view but its doesn't take a genuis to know that it's far back. It starts with row B though I think so it's row 25,26 or 27 not sure how it works but it is pretty high but good seats.

Ones in bold are simply not international standard IMO and this just highlights why we will always struggle. That said at least smith has got something right dropping wasters like pryce, wellens, etc....and its looking like myler/eastmond and tomkins will get a run, though smith will no doubt pick his favourates and go for myler at half.

Have to say though I do worry somewhat....as good as myler/ tomkins/ easmond and shenton are i can see them smashed by the aussies as im not quite sure their up to that standard yet....although at least most of the liabilities have gone.

Starting 17 for me would be

Briscoe
Fox
Ellis
Smith
Hall
McGuire
Tomkins
Peacock
Roby
Graham
Wilkin
O'Loughlin
Burgess
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Carvell
Moz
Sinfield
Crabtree

Ellis is a must in the backs for me or we'll get minced and beefs us up in the backs where we're weak

Ryan Hall is the best winger we have and he is not played enough to judge if he is international standard.

Wilkin is not international standard, Gilmour should of been in for him, he has always performed at international level.

We should start with Burgess and Morley at SR IMO.

I agree with you about Ellis but will he have enough pace against Hodges and Inglis?

Haven't seen much of Bradford this year. Has Burgess been playing loose? I only ask as quite a few have him down for that position in their starting 13's.

Would it be better to have a 4 prop rotation of Morley, Peacock, Burgess and Graham or seeing all these are probably capable of long stints, using one of Morley or Peacock in the second row and having a 3 prop rotation system? Just a thought.

He has played 13 but he is not as good with ball in hand as lockers.

I would play Burgess full game pretty much at SR with Morley and Ellis rotating maybe. Keep Peacock and Graham at prop with Carvell and Morley and Crabtree doing stints at prop but keep Peacock and Graham on as much as possible.

Not a big fan of Crabtree. I'd be tempted to go with:

Peacock
Roby/Moore
Graham
Ellis
Lockers
Sinfield (for his kicking game - likelihood is we'll be in our half quite a bit so need a long kicking game)

Morley
Burgess
Carvell/Wilkin (if using Morley/Burgess as back row cover go with Carvell, Wilkin if not - I'd sway to an awesome foursome Bradfut oldskool)
Roby/Moore

Maybe your right, but has Sinfield done that much kicking for Leeds, I thought it was Maguire.

I'm not sure to be honest. I've just always noticed Sinfield's long kicking game especially in the last three GF's. Plus he's a good goalkicker which is a bonus.

I like McGuire's short kicking game and he would start at stand off for me partnering Tomkins or Myler.

Morley
Moore
Graham
Peacock
Ellis
Lockers

Burgess
Crabtree
Carvell
Roby

That would be our best pack and our most effective way of beating th'aussies. Especially considering how light they are in the front row

Good point, Sinfield is actually going to play he is the only kicker



Him and Bridge.