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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Always seen what point you are trying to make. Back to the original post was with regards to Webb, who isn't the type of prop we need.
If you look at our team the pack doesn't make enough yards and barely troubles the line. (bar Hock). We need someone to 'enforce' himself onto the game. play for the first 30-35mins leading by example working hard as well as being a dominate force.
An impact prop (2omin spells) isn't on long enough to be an enforcer.
We need an enforcer who is a leader and capt figure. i.e Bailey, Morley Peacock, Cayless.'"
Bailey and Cayless are the realistic options. I think Cayless ticks every box. Cayless never really has a bad game, this is what we need, consistency.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Bailey and Cayless are the realistic options. I think Cayless ticks every box. Cayless never really has a bad game, this is what we need, consistency.'"
Not sure if Bailey is. He's a Origin starter and getting in to the Rep side more and more. Recently been starting on the bench as an interchange for Petro and Price.
I think as joint capt of Titans, he'll wanna stay where he is and progress, it's only a matter of time before he's a starter for the national team with both Price and Petro being 35.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Not sure if Bailey is. He's a Origin starter and getting in to the Rep side more and more. Recently been starting on the bench as an interchange for Petro and Price.
I think as joint capt of Titans, he'll wanna stay where he is and progress, it's only a matter of time before he's a starter for the national team with both Price and Petro being 35.'"
Bailey has said he's defo coming to superleague but only for 2011. He should be our number 1 target to replace Fielden imo.
It's been rumoured for a long while that he wants to come to the UK.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Bailey has said he's defo coming to superleague but only for 2011. He should be our number 1 target to replace Fielden imo.
It's been rumoured for a long while that he wants to come to the UK.'"
Where has this come from? Although saying that he will be 31 then and after a final pay day.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Where has this come from? Although saying that he will be 31 then and after a final pay day.'"
Read it in a couple of places. One being the League express and the other being an Australian website iirc.
There were direct quotes from him about wanting the move.
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Quote Luke Bailey: I'd like to see parts of the world and go play overseas for a little bit," said the 29-year-old on the eve of the Titans' appointment with the Canberra Raiders at Skilled Park tonight.
"So I'll finish my NRL career with the team then probably head overseas for a couple of years if I can."'"
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Quote Luke Bailey: I'd like to see parts of the world and go play overseas for a little bit," said the 29-year-old on the eve of the Titans' appointment with the Canberra Raiders at Skilled Park tonight.
"So I'll finish my NRL career with the team then probably head overseas for a couple of years if I can."'"
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If it is not for next season i don't think we should look at him. LMS must be our replacement for Fielden come 2011. Much depends on our ability to attract a Prop this year and who that Prop is i guess, but with the drop in quota i am not sure we should use 2 spots on Props, on top of Feka who is not counted.
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| Quote ="jonh"If it is not for next season i don't think we should look at him. LMS must be our replacement for Fielden come 2011. Much depends on our ability to attract a Prop this year and who that Prop is i guess, but with the drop in quota i am not sure we should use 2 spots on Props, on top of Feka who is not counted.'"
As much as I'd love us to get LMS, realistically is he going to want to come to us, at the minute he's no more likely to win anything with us than he is with Quins.
In fact looking at the bigger picture, we maybe at the point whereby are only attraction to players over other clubs is the size of are crowd, we no longer are able to guarantee to players that they'll be in the playoffs or in the later rounds of the cup. Obviously this is going to hamper are recruitment of domestic players, and to some affect will it not also deter the junior players we atempt to recruit, who may look at other local clubs and join them due to there onfield success.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"As much as I'd love us to get LMS, realistically is he going to want to come to us, at the minute he's no more likely to win anything with us than he is with Quins.
In fact looking at the bigger picture, we maybe at the point whereby are only attraction to players over other clubs is the size of are crowd, we no longer are able to guarantee to players that they'll be in the playoffs or in the later rounds of the cup. Obviously this is going to hamper are recruitment of domestic players, and to some affect will it not also deter the junior players we atempt to recruit, who may look at other local clubs and join them due to there onfield success.'"
We have better training facilities.
We can probably offer him more money than most teams.
We are a massive club and there is a general attraction to it because of this.
We have alot of potential to be a big force once again.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Bailey has said he's defo coming to superleague but only for 2011. He should be our number 1 target to replace Fielden imo.
It's been rumoured for a long while that he wants to come to the UK.'"
LMS has to be fieldens replacement if fielden goes. His contract will be less than what hes on now no matter where he goes cos nobody else is stupid enough to pay it apart from us. I could see stu staying on a lesser contract and i for one would be happy with this if it meant we could bolster our pack with the likes of LMS playing along side him with the extra money
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| Quote ="odemwingie"We have better training facilities.
We can probably offer him more money than most teams.
We are a massive club and there is a general attraction to it because of this.
We have alot of potential to be a big force once again.'"
I dont see how under SC?
would a london lad want to leave that to move up north? i wouldnt.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"We have better training facilities.
We can probably offer him more money than most teams.
We are a massive club and there is a general attraction to it because of this.
We have alot of potential to be a big force once again.'"
But he's a local quins lad, they are doing well and are obviously going to try and build there team around him in the future. I can see them offering him a contract in the coming weeks and him being more than likely to sign it.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"
We are a massive club and there is a general attraction to it because of this.
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Your problem in this respect is that you are a massive club that is still on a downward spiral, that attraction isn't as great as it was.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I dont see how under SC?
would a london lad want to leave that to move up north? i wouldnt.'"
Depending on cap space it's quite possible.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I dont see how under SC? '"
we'll have more than most over the next couple of years, Bailey and Fielden to name just 2 were both "internationals" when we signed them. So thats at least 100k+ a year from just 1 player.
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Well if he doesn't sign for us I'd much rather he stayed at Salford plus it'll help his development as a player. For me Myler signing for any other club only improves there chances, if he does sign this contract I personally cant see him sticking it to the end, sooner or later a big club will come in for him.
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Well if he doesn't sign for us I'd much rather he stayed at Salford plus it'll help his development as a player. For me Myler signing for any other club only improves there chances, if he does sign this contract I personally cant see him sticking it to the end, sooner or later a big club will come in for him.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"We have better training facilities.
We can probably offer him more money than most teams.
We are a massive club and there is a general attraction to it because of this.
We have alot of potential to be a big force once again.'"
I'd be quite interested to see what a sales pitch of the club to potential players looks like, and whether Lenegan uses a power point production.
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| It would be great to see Myler stay at Salford even if it ment us missing out
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| He won't stay at Salford, he will go to Wire.
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| I would like to see Wigan recruit more Kiwi's than Aussies in the next few years. Wigan always seemed to get more value for money with Kiwis in the 80's & 90's.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I would like to see Wigan recruit more Kiwi's than Aussies in the next few years. Wigan always seemed to get more value for money with Kiwis in the 80's & 90's.'"
plus your more likely to get current internationals.
There is however a much weaker strength in depth, it seems to me that the top NZ players can compete with most that aus can offer, but after the first team there doesn't seem to be a huge amount.
Similar to us in regards to our forwards, we have a few who can compette and then after that we're a bit screwed.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I would like to see Wigan recruit more Kiwi's than Aussies in the next few years. Wigan always seemed to get more value for money with Kiwis in the 80's & 90's.'"
Well, what an ambition that is.
I bet every aspiring youngster in the locality would be delighted with that idea.
We shouldn't be looking to sign any foreign players.
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| Quote ="MattyB"I would like to see Wigan recruit more Kiwi's than Aussies in the next few years. Wigan always seemed to get more value for money with Kiwis in the 80's & 90's.'"
Thats something i've wanted to see for years.
When you go for Kiwi's you generally seem to get more out of them then the Aussies. They just seem to have more passion about them and maybe it's because you can tempt a few higher end Kiwi's over here then you can Australians.
Get Kearney in and get him to bring a couple of class Kiwi's with him(Adam Blair wouldn't go amiss).
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"Well, what an ambition that is.
I bet every aspiring youngster in the locality would be delighted with that idea.
We shouldn't be looking to sign any foreign players.'"
Of course because every great player has come from Wigan and English players are always superior to every foreigner in the world!
I would like it if we could also get Tongans/Samoans/Fijians to if they are of the right quality.
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