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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"i wouldnt say fault, id say it was fekas actions that lead to JDs high tackle... and credit to him (feka that is), players put footwork on for a reason you know....to try and gain any advantage they can....and in this case, it caused JD to get his tackling technique wrong and it won wigan a penalty - carnt argue with that.'"
It was a calculated and selective tackle with the aim to stop Feka (since one on one he isn't often brought down) by going high and going illegal. Demetriou knew exactly what he was doing and was very very lucky not to be carded.
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I have loads of respect for JD, he always does well for us, and his actions re Adam Watene are too decent for words. But, he should have gone for that tackle.'"
if JD should have gone for that tackle, mathers should be banned from any form of rugby for life for his actions today.
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| Quote ="Abe Frohman"If the Demetriou attempt at decapitating Feka is deemed as "acceptable" and not worthy of any card then we shouldnt see another player sent from the field in any game again this season. Sadly we will and look back to this incident and wonder why.'"
The tackle was high, but was a lazy arm after he was caught out by good footwork... it was a million miles away from a sending off. These tackles happen week in, week out especially in this weather. I personally thought that Coley's high tackle and grapple on Wilkes was worse. There was malice in it, as he didn't like being hit hard by Stosic.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"if JD should have gone for that tackle, mathers should be banned from any form of rugby for life for his actions today.'"
You wont find a Wigan fan who disagrees
But that doesnt change the fact JD was very lucky not to be sent off.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"if JD should have gone for that tackle, mathers should be banned from any form of rugby for life for his actions today.'"
The RFL have decided they would punish the Wigan club more by not handing down this ruling on Mathers.
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"I wouldnt pay him in washers. Stick him in the reserves. Im fed up of his cowardly acts. He offers nowt'"
This is exactly it he's got no bottle at all. He'd sooner trip a player up or tackle them off the ball than put his body on the line. He caught a few good high balls today but offers nothing at all going forward and often let simple kicks just roll past him about 10 yards further. Surley Richards or Roberts has to take his place.
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| Quote ="Laura xxx"It was a calculated and selective tackle with the aim to stop Feka (since one on one he isn't often brought down) by going high and going illegal. Demetriou knew exactly what he was doing and was very very lucky not to be carded.'"
Thats garbage, if youd watch JD week in week out you'd find he is not a malliscious player at all. Feka did him with great footwork. Also a massive rap to Feka, he didn't jump up and start fighting or anything daft and he didn't stay down on the floor trying to make it look worse than it was, he just got up dusted himself down and carried on with his game, great sportsmanship. I thought you wre totally lost without him and Fielden on the pitch, why does Noble play them both at the same time its glaringly obvious you need one of them on at all times in order for you to get any go forward. I think Nobby thought it was going to be easy and didn't take us seriously, just because our players aren't household names doesn't make them bad players, Nobles got to realise they're all full time players and he should treat each team with the respect they deserve. I've never rated Noble as a coach he had it easy at the Bulls inheriting a winning squad which he slowly turned in to a not so winning squad, as things got worse he jumped ship and went to you and a seemingly endless pot of money (lindsay days), so far he's done nothing at Wigan to suggest to me that he's a good coach.
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| Quote ="Laura xxx"It was a calculated and selective tackle with the aim to stop Feka (since one on one he isn't often brought down) by going high and going illegal. Demetriou knew exactly what he was doing and was very very lucky not to be carded.'"
players tend to go 'upstairs' when tackling anyway.one aspect of rugby league is about wining the collision - players tackle chest high week in week out - feka put some good footwork on and JD got his technique wrong. it was a high tackle and nothing more - even Mr Smith must have had that view as he didnt put the incident on report, there was no major flare up between the players, and Mr Smith just had a quick chat with JD and the game continued.
tackles like that go uncarded week in week out.
youre probing one player for one incident and using it as a point of focus for your posts.....try gettin your own house in order first!
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Thats garbage, if youd watch JD week in week out you'd find he is not a malliscious player at all. Feka did him with great footwork. Also a massive rap to Feka, he didn't jump up and start fighting or anything daft and he didn't stay down on the floor trying to make it look worse than it was, he just got up dusted himself down and carried on with his game, great sportsmanship. .'"
I didn't suggest he was a malicious player at all. I don't regard JD as that sort of player. I said it was calculated and selective i.e. he planned to stop Feka with a high shot in that specific tackle (do not take "calculated" to mean "malicious"icon_wink.gif.
Feka doesn't step him he runs straight at him - so it wasn't the case where a player has been stepped and is "done by good footwork".
JD knew what he was doing, and knew it was worth the risk to stop him.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"youre probing one player for one incident and using it as a point of focus for your posts.....try gettin your own house in order first!
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I commented on the incident as others have? I'm talking about the incident - so of course it is a point of focus for my posts!
And JD's tackle doesn't have anything to do with what is wrong with Wigan, our players, our coach and our work ethic. Those comments are for the plenty of other topics regarding just that.
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| I'm bored of Mathers threads.
Everybody and I mean EVERYBODY involved with Wigan RL thinks Mathers shouldn't be selected...Apart from those who do!!
Enough is enough.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I'm bored of Mathers threads.
Everybody and I mean EVERYBODY involved with Wigan RL thinks Mathers shouldn't be selected...Apart from those who do!!
Enough is enough.'"
Do you think he should play?
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| Maybe he's paying us to play him and we need the money. I really have no idea what Noble is thinking when he plays him.
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| i would say loan him out, but who in their right minds would take him?
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| Can we have all the JD high tackle debate in a different thread please.
Just to get the thread back on topic......
Superleague fullbacks -
Leeds - Webb or Smith
Saints - Wellens or Gidley
Catalans - Greenshields
Bradford - Platt or Sykes
Wire - Reardon or Hicks
Hull - Motu Tony or Todd Byrne
Hull KR - Briscoe or Cockayne
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Huddersfield - Hodgson or Hodgson
Salford - Fitzpatrick
Celtic - Duggan
Quins - Dorn or Melling
Cas - Owen or McGoldrick
I would have all of that lot in our team before Mathers at this moment in time (yes, even Platt!).
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| That Duggan lad on Friday night had a pearler.
A game that Mathers could only dream of.
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| Quote ="Bridger"Can we have all the JD high tackle debate in a different thread please.
Just to get the thread back on topic......
Superleague fullbacks -
Leeds - Webb or Smith
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Catalans - Greenshields
Bradford - Platt or Sykes
Wire - Reardon or Hicks
Hull - Motu Tony or Todd Byrne
Hull KR - Briscoe or Cockayne
Wakefield - Blaymire or Martin
Huddersfield - Hodgson or Hodgson
Salford - Fitzpatrick
Celtic - Duggan
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Cas - Owen or McGoldrick
I would have all of that lot in our team before Mathers at this moment in time (yes, even Platt!).'"
Quins - Chris Melling.
I agree, I'd have any of those without a doubt.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Quins - Chris Melling.
I agree, I'd have any of those without a doubt.'"
Ssssssh! I forgot to fill in the blanks for Quins but I'm sure nobody will notice.
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| Tbh I don't understand why after his comments about Roberts being "exceptional" at full back why he still chose to play him on the wing and go with Mathers :S
That's just asking for trouble if you ask me.
I don't think there is a single person that would want to keep Mathers. Except that 1 woman in the South Stand Bar after the game. But she clearly didn't watch the game either that or she secreetly supports Saints.
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| Quote ="hula89"Tbh I don't understand why after his comments about Roberts being "exceptional" at full back why he still chose to play him on the wing and go with Mathers :S
That's just asking for trouble if you ask me.
I don't think there is a single person that would want to keep Mathers. Except that 1 woman in the South Stand Bar after the game. But she clearly didn't watch the game either that or she secreetly supports Saints.'"
What was said in the south stand bar? Who got the coaches player of the match
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"What was said in the south stand bar? Who got the coaches player of the match'"
O'Carroll.
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| Yeah O'Carroll and what was said in the south stand bar was that Veivers said "there were plus points to the game something about leuluai's break but his comments were met with a lot of people shouting that Mathers should be dropped but during this a squeaky elderly woman shouted "no keep mathers" she is clearly a Saints fan who pretends to be a Wigan fan coz it's cooler
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Quote ="Broxy Music"icon_lol.gif Check out mathers profile on wiganwarriors.com
www.wiganwarriors.com/SquadMembe ... d=1&id=267
He is an experienced full back who plays with enthusiasm, has a good pair of hands, never takes a backward step and is safe in defence.'"
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Quote ="Broxy Music"icon_lol.gif Check out mathers profile on wiganwarriors.com
www.wiganwarriors.com/SquadMembe ... d=1&id=267
He is an experienced full back who plays with enthusiasm, has a good pair of hands, never takes a backward step and is safe in defence.'"
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| Wouldn't be the first time Wigan lied to it's fans....
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