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| Quote ="justarugbyfan"Combination of a few would be best - Hanley, Lance Todd, etc'"
Lancelot Todd became better known as being a journalist as opposed to being a RL player. Though he was a member of that great Wigan threequarter line pre WW1 - Leytham,Jenkins Todd and Miller.
IIRC he was coming back from the Watersheddings during WW2 and with the 'blackout' his car smashed and he unfortunately got killed in the Salford area.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Sorry for showing you up, but I think if you thought about this from more than just a club perspective you can see there are many better options than edwards. If all you can say is 8 in a row and he helped and old couple, you have sort of missed the point of the statue.
I would even accept a name such as jim sullivan (although I know very little about him; compared)'"
I don't feel shown up at all. But i do still feel that you have a very unhealthy dislike for Shaun Edwards which clouds out his link with Wembly in your eyes.
Perhaps, as a student of the game, you should look at Jim Sullivans story.
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| I reckon a statue symbolising the spirit of RL would be better than one of a particular player, not least because RL is way too parochial and tribal to ever be able to pick one player without forever offending at least half the fanbase.
I'd have Alex Murphy you see but you lot would have Edwards, who to me is a Union man not a League man. Murphy was League through and through, English, played domestic and international games with equal talent and commitment, and is very feisty when it comes to preserving our way of playing the game (rather than copying the Aussies). To me he epitomises all that is good about English RL - cocky halfback who pushed the rules to his team's advantage without ever being dirty or unprofessional; fiercely supportive of his native game, supremely talented, etc.
But my guess is that every Wigan fan would disagree with my choice!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"
But my guess is that every Wigan fan would disagree with my choice!'"
That probably says more about you...
Todd Sullivan or Boston for me. Best to use players from the past for these things. All names that people know and respect.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Best to use players from the Wigan past for these things. '"
Edited to show what you meant to say.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Edited to show what you meant to say.'"
Try looking at the records and tell me that they would be poor choices..
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| I've no issue with Hanley in the slightest even though my choice would be Murphy, Edwards though, no thank you, build one outside the Millennium Stadium for him.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I knew all the details, which is why i said "near". Just did not want to drag it all up in open forum.'"
not a matter of dragging it up....more a matter of pointing out to a few people what kind of bloke Shaun is.
i still dont think it should be him though.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I don't feel shown up at all. But i do still feel that you have a very unhealthy dislike for Shaun Edwards which clouds out his link with Wembly in your eyes.
Perhaps, as a student of the game, you should look at Jim Sullivans story.'"
I can assure you, I have nothing against shaun edwards. As I say, he is a rugby union coach to me; nothing more. I didn't get my heart broken during the wigan run. I see that as a great acheivement, if cheapened by the circumstances. Edwards- good player in a team of stars! Honest, that is my view.
The only rugby player I don't like is bailey.
If there should be a statue of edwards there are two (maybe 3) places it should be. The first is outside central park. The other is outside the millenium stadium (maybe the DW) seen as only one of those is possible (Mill), I would wite to them. It would be more appropiate.
My view seems to have lined up with yed. Hanley and murphy are both good shouts
Who would you suggest, who isn't a former wigan player?
We must remember there are a thousand rugby league stories at wembley that don't involve wigan (and many are better).
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| Quote ="jdrocket"We must remember there are a thousand rugby league stories at wembley that don't involve wigan (=#800000and many are better).'"
I doubt it.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"What about sheffield winning a major final against wigan there. What were the odds? 33/1? Good story. (Involves wigan but in a different sense)
Murohy winning three with three different teams (-ncluding a mediocre leigh side against the leeds)
Fox missing that kick
Winng the world cup
There you go four off the top of my head. Still doubt it?'"
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| Fox missing a kick? Failure over triumph?
Only in England, get a grip.
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| Winning the World Cup?
I must have missed that one where GB/England won a Rugby League World Cup Final at Wembley??
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| Quote ="MattyB"Fox missing a kick? Failure over triumph?
Only in England, get a grip.'"
I agree, a statue of a loser pfftt.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I agree, a statue of a loser pfftt.'"
Rugby League's version of Ray Finkle.
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| Never said it was a heart warming story but it beats 'only pro team buys best players and shockingly wins loads of stuff'
Face it the Murphy story sums up the spirit of rugby league far more than almost anything else.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Never said it was a heart warming story but it beats 'only pro team buys best players and shockingly wins loads of stuff''"
But Leeds didn't win any major trophies at all when they were the only full-time team, never mind at Wembley.
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| It has to be a Wigan player and that Wigan player is Shaun Edwards.
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| Yeah, cause Les Boyd was a carpet fitter when he came over here right?
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| Quote ="MattyB"Yeah, cause Les Boyd was a carpet fitter when he came over here right?'"
Fitted my Grans
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| Martin Offiah ,best try ever scored at the old Wembley....Joel Tomkins scored a better one this yr though
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| Quote ="jdrocket"I can assure you, I have nothing against shaun edwards. As I say, he is a rugby union coach to me; nothing more. I didn't get my heart broken during the wigan run. I see that as a great acheivement, if cheapened by the circumstances. Edwards- good player in a team of stars! Honest, that is my view.
The only rugby player I don't like is bailey.
If there should be a statue of edwards there are two (maybe 3) places it should be. The first is outside central park. The other is outside the millenium stadium (maybe the DW) seen as only one of those is possible (Mill), I would wite to them. It would be more appropiate.
My view seems to have lined up with yed. Hanley and murphy are both good shouts
Who would you suggest, who isn't a former wigan player?
We must remember there are a thousand rugby league stories at wembley that don't involve wigan (and many are better).'"
So now his fault is to be in a good team.... Stop making yourself look silly... This is a Wigan board discussing a subject which will inevitably involve OUR big names, and others, which it has. Go back to your own board and have a 3 page discussion about yours...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"So now his fault is to be in a good team.... Stop making yourself look silly... This is a Wigan board discussing a subject which will inevitably involve OUR big names, and others, which it has. Go back to your own board and have a 3 page discussion about yours...'"
I don't think you can read.
I won't explain it again.just clarify and summize. Shaun edwards is a rugby union name now.
I will go to an extreme, just for you. No matter what edwards did, he is a rugby union name now! That is incredibley simplistic but you don't seem to understand otherwise.
Many wigan fans say that edwards should be in due to wigan's period of dominance. I am saying that not only is that not in the spirit of rugby leageu but also he is a rugby union name now!
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Take your Warrington specs off.
Some posters on here are saying that Wigan bought anyone they wanted. They certainly replaced very good/ great players (the likes of Hanley, Gregory, Goodway etc) but Edwards is sixth on the all time Wigans appearance list so obviously they thought he was one of their most influential players EVER. particularly when you look at the players above him are also five of the all time greats of Rugby League.
wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=481
Edwards is the most decorated player EVER in Rugby League
He has the most Wembley appearances and Wembley wins (where is the status going to be)
I think he was also the youngest ever winning captain.
It's not his fault that the RFL are stupid and didn't recognise his value to the game (see the article in Fridays Evening Post)
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Take your Warrington specs off.
Some posters on here are saying that Wigan bought anyone they wanted. They certainly replaced very good/ great players (the likes of Hanley, Gregory, Goodway etc) but Edwards is sixth on the all time Wigans appearance list so obviously they thought he was one of their most influential players EVER. particularly when you look at the players above him are also five of the all time greats of Rugby League.
wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... age_id=481
Edwards is the most decorated player EVER in Rugby League
He has the most Wembley appearances and Wembley wins (where is the status going to be)
I think he was also the youngest ever winning captain.
It's not his fault that the RFL are stupid and didn't recognise his value to the game (see the article in Fridays Evening Post)
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