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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"How much of Kibula have you seen this season?'"
Dewsbury fans seem to agree that he is doing ok but is still very raw and seems to be becoming less adventurous as the season moves on. Doesn't sound like he is ready yet.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"None but he's got to be better than one run Tautai'"
Bingo, none, but I've seen quite enough of Tautai thank you very much.
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| Quote ="P-J"Bingo, none, but I've seen quite enough of Tautai thank you very much.'"
So you'd rather pick someone who struggled against Thatto Heath?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So you'd rather pick someone who struggled against Thatto Heath?'"
Wasn't he given man of the match on the live coverage?
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| If we are pinning our hopes on Kibula it’s time to wind up the club.
Never a first team player....never will be.
Found his level where he is in my opinion.
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| Quote ="jonh"If we are pinning our hopes on Kibula it’s time to wind up the club.
Never a first team player....never will be.
Found his level where he is in my opinion.'"
So why is he still on our books? He’s been touted as a player for ages by some on here. Cut the quantity, increase the quality.
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| What’s he been like Rogues? I’ve always had it in the back of my mind is he’s a pudding but he always did ok.
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| What’s he been like Rogues? I’ve always had it in the back of my mind is he’s a pudding but he always did ok.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So you'd rather pick someone who struggled against Thatto Heath?'"
If it means I don't have to watch Tautai again, sure.
He's an awful rugby league player.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"So why is he still on our books? He’s been touted as a player for ages by some on here. Cut the quantity, increase the quality.'"
I agree with this.
Too many rainbows being chased.
The lad simply is nowhere near athletic enough to be a player who should be playing for a team challenging for titles.
In my opinion we are scared of the next Long again, but we can’t keep adding kids to the cap.
We have on the face of it probably the biggest squad in SL...in the days if the salary cap though that equates to a dilution if quality.
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| Quote ="Levrier"Dewsbury fans seem to agree that he is doing ok but is still very raw and seems to be becoming less adventurous as the season moves on. Doesn't sound like he is ready yet.'"
To me he's nowhere near ready but because hes big he simply must be..the lad needs time if,and say if hes to make it, much better off at dews bury than coming in to this team.
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| Quote ="jonh"I agree with this.
Too many rainbows being chased.
The lad simply is nowhere near athletic enough to be a player who should be playing for a team challenging for titles.
In my opinion we are scared of the next Long again, but we can’t keep adding kids to the cap.
We have on the face of it probably the biggest squad in SL...in the days if the salary cap though that equates to a dilution if quality.'"
No it doesn't. According to the cap rules published by the RFL if a player is aged 20 or under on 31/08/18 and isn't among the top 25 earners they don't count on the salary cap even if they play a salary cap relevant game. That would mean that outside of our top 25 earners the only player likely to have any effect on the cap if they played for our first team is Liam Forsyth.
Now if the chairman uses the salary cap as a guide for spending on the entire squad then it will dilute the quality, but that's the chairman's choice rather than a salary cap issue.
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| Quote ="post"What’s he been like Rogues? I’ve always had it in the back of my mind is he’s a pudding but he always did ok.'"
People see Kibulas size and instantly get exited but he doesn’t have the aggression to ram his size home and he’s lazy in defence, in reality his best attribute is his handling skill, he would be better suited playing 13 imo maybe losing some puppy fat but I don’t think he will make it at Wigan.
I have always said this that I don’t think being so big at such a young age is good for a players development, there will come a time when people catch up with you and you won’t be used to not playing against players half your size.
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| We have kept the squad together on the basis of running a reserve aside.
This week there is a meeting of sl chairmen at which it will be made compulsory for clubs to run a reserves side in 2020.
Mo9st clubs will need to sign a lot of players to do so.
We already have our reserves in place.
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| Salford have named an unchanged 19 man squad from the one that beat Warrington on Friday.
Normally I’d say don’t change a winning team but that’s when you have more than 72 hours between games.
The Salford line up will look something like this:
1. Evalds
2. Olpherts
3. Welham
4. Inu/Sa’u
5. Bibby
6. Lui
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| Quote ="CobraCraig"People see Kibulas size and instantly get exited but he doesn’t have the aggression to ram his size home and he’s lazy in defence, in reality his best attribute is his handling skill, he would be better suited playing 13 imo maybe losing some puppy fat but I don’t think he will make it at Wigan.
I have always said this that I don’t think being so big at such a young age is good for a players development, there will come a time when people catch up with you and you won’t be used to not playing against players half your size.'"
Playing in the championship could well be the making of him if his lazy defence can be sorted out. Given the way we are going we could well be playing him on the wing.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Can we not swap Tautai for Kibulala?'"
Kibula got thrown around at Thatto Heath last week, nothing like super league him.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Wasn't he given man of the match on the live coverage?'"
If he was then whover picked it is completely brain dead.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"We have kept the squad together on the basis of running a reserve aside.
This week there is a meeting of sl chairmen at which it will be made compulsory for clubs to run a reserves side in 2020.
Mo9st clubs will need to sign a lot of players to do so.
We already have our reserves in place.'"
Agree with you there in what you say, i would think there will nbe some things brought in though to accomodate this meaning more money can be spent as some clubs are capped up and have very shallow squads so wouldnt be able to fit anymore players in???
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"No it doesn't. According to the cap rules published by the RFL if a player is aged 20 or under on 31/08/18 and isn't among the top 25 earners they don't count on the salary cap even if they play a salary cap relevant game. That would mean that outside of our top 25 earners the only player likely to have any effect on the cap if they played for our first team is Liam Forsyth.
Now if the chairman uses the salary cap as a guide for spending on the entire squad then it will dilute the quality, but that's the chairman's choice rather than a salary cap issue.'"
Surely forsyth is only on £200 a week anyway. Any more is far to much
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Quote ="Cherry.Pie"No it doesn't. =#FF0000According to the cap rules published by the RFL if a player is aged 20 or under on 31/08/18 and isn't among the top 25 earners they don't count on the salary cap even if they play a salary cap relevant game. That would mean that outside of our top 25 earners the only player likely to have any effect on the cap if they played for our first team is Liam Forsyth.
Now if the chairman uses the salary cap as a guide for spending on the entire squad then it will dilute the quality, but that's the chairman's choice rather than a salary cap issue.'"
Only if they're on less than £20K per year.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=277
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Quote ="Cherry.Pie"No it doesn't. =#FF0000According to the cap rules published by the RFL if a player is aged 20 or under on 31/08/18 and isn't among the top 25 earners they don't count on the salary cap even if they play a salary cap relevant game. That would mean that outside of our top 25 earners the only player likely to have any effect on the cap if they played for our first team is Liam Forsyth.
Now if the chairman uses the salary cap as a guide for spending on the entire squad then it will dilute the quality, but that's the chairman's choice rather than a salary cap issue.'"
Only if they're on less than £20K per year.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=277
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I thought it didn't sound accurate, as we had to ask for dispensation in 2017 but none of the players who played were over 21. I read it as players who fell into either category a) or b) but it does say a) and b).
Which still means we're not paying a significant amount of cap for the majority of our fringe players and probably nothing at all for the likes of Smithies, Shorrocks, Bourouh and Smith.
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I thought it didn't sound accurate, as we had to ask for dispensation in 2017 but none of the players who played were over 21. I read it as players who fell into either category a) or b) but it does say a) and b).
Which still means we're not paying a significant amount of cap for the majority of our fringe players and probably nothing at all for the likes of Smithies, Shorrocks, Bourouh and Smith.
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| It's a difficult one really. Do we go with a smaller but a "stronger/more experienced squad" or a bigger squad? With the injury situation this season I'm grateful for having more players, but if you don't have those injuries then a stronger squad would be more beneficial imo.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It's a difficult one really. Do we go with a smaller but a "stronger/more experienced squad" or a bigger squad? With the injury situation this season I'm grateful for having more players, but if you don't have those injuries then a stronger squad would be more beneficial imo.'"
I think you need a balence between both. If you look at it most of the young players are not on cap... it's also not helped much having players to put in who are not upto SL level, our results show that. The only good thing is it gives them expierence. We have had shocking runs with injuries this year, along with changes and the stuff off field it is the worse we have had in SL era for me.
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