Wigan had, what would now be marquee players, in Hanley, Offiah, Edwards, Gregory at the same time.

Quote ="JWarriors"Yes that one. Just because Zak ran round him on this occasion for the try doesn't make a difference. Sam offers way more in attack and links into the line better. But you're right, I don't like Zak and didnt want him at the club tom begin with.'" Zac is a very talented player and will show up Tomkins for what he is now a run down has been, if you want to see a player who could run around players view offiah's ten try sensation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdkL8w_Qog

Quote ="JWarriors"Yes that one. Just because Zak ran round him on this occasion for the try doesn't make a difference. Sam offers way more in attack and links into the line better. But you're right, I don't like Zak and didnt want him at the club tom begin with.'" Zac is a very talented player and will show up Tomkins for what he is now a run down has been, if you want to see a player who could run around players view offiah's ten try sensation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdkL8w_Qog

I don't personally have an issue with ZH or his past, I'm just not a massive fan of what I'd call a 'defensive' FB. For me I prefer my FB to be a little more slick with the hands and boot. ZH has a world-class running game and he's great defensively too, but he's not a 3rd pivot. Sam might not be as good defensively, but he was more than adequate and delivered championships in attack.

Also makes me laugh how bitter/fickle some of our fans are. Any player that dares to leave is lambasted and their past achievements are wiped from the history books. Look no further than Sam or Edwards (our most decorated ever player). It's a career and players/coaches have to make their money whilst they can. Neither of the two guys I've mentioned owe Wigan anything.

Hanley wasn't at Wigan when Offiah was

No third pivot, I guess you never watched him in a Cas shirt? He was under Powell.

Apologies, I was pretty aure he was.

Apology accepted

Quote ="snowie"Zac is a very talented player and will show up Tomkins for what he is now a run down has been, if you want to see a player who could run around players view offiah's ten try sensation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdkL8w_Qog'" IMO Hardaker has never been as good as Tomkins was from 2010-2013. Right now its pretty close between the two. Tomkins better going forwards. Hardaker better in defence.

Quote ="snowie"Zac is a very talented player and will show up Tomkins for what he is now a run down has been, if you want to see a player who could run around players view offiah's ten try sensation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdkL8w_Qog'" IMO Hardaker has never been as good as Tomkins was from 2010-2013. Right now its pretty close between the two. Tomkins better going forwards. Hardaker better in defence.

I dont know how you come to that conclusion.

Hardaker in that era was a superb defender and taker of the high ball whilst Tomkins was less than reliable in defence and a liability under the high ball. Tomkins was lethal in attack and whilst Hardaker never had the attacking capability of Tomkins, he was still a huge threat. If you mean Hardaker has never been as good in attack as Tomkins was then id agree but Tomkins has never been as good in defence as Hardaker was and still is. Hardaker is now the better all round player and it will become apparent once he fully finds his feet in attack.

Sam is a better player. Zak is a better fullback.

Nail on head.

Trouble at t’mill?

Sounds like it, but you never know with Zac.

Why?

Take no notice Hengirl, it’s just his stalkers trying to get a bite again. It’s time they gave up on here and crawled back under their stone. I’ve yet to see either of them contribute anything positive on here.

Harsh.
Look back at the thread when he was convicted of drink driving. Everyone said the same then, but his “stalkers” knew exactly what was going on before it became public knowledge.
You can’t say you didn’t know what you were getting, it should be no surprise that’s he’s screwed up (again).

Get a life you sad sad man, Hardaker hasn’t “messed up” again and whilst I won’t defend his previous actions, he’s been very good on/off the field this year

Until now.....

And let me guess, he will be sacked from Wigan and will return to castleford to lead you to grand final glory?

Hope not.

At least next season you’ll be able to share your obsession of Zak with Mitch Clark

Widdop was back as captain of St. George last weekend and played the full game. Good performance considering his long layoff.

Bennett said a couple of months ago that his preferred half back pair for England was Williams and Widdop.

Yea I thought that’s what it was,I do find it bizarre peoples obsession with the lad

Was it not Cas fans on here who broke his drink driving story?

There’s a few comments on the cas forum that he’s been naughty again but not enough to concern me yet.

It would explain the French signing though. I guess we’ll find out by Thursday.