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| Quote ="Jukesays"As per the text I sent you yesterday!
"Apparently"
it was a very interesting meeting but seemed like there were a few agendas on the cards!'"
Did you get my e-mail?
Twitchy bums?
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| So it appears all these tackle tactics are now to be considered as foul play. Players committing this type of foul play are to be sin binned.
Has anyone told them that players can't be sin binned for foul play?
They are making it up as they bloody well go along!
Beggars belief it really does!
So how many rules are they changing now then? We must deduce from this, that from now on players can be sin binned for foul play. Is it all aspects of foul play or the ones just listed from their recent meeting?
In the Hull game two players should have been sin binned for fighting, they weren't and it caused a riot leading to a player being sent off. That was a complete and utter shambles.
So where do we go with this? Every team down to 11 or 12 by 15 mins into the game?
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| As I replied in my text to Jukesays last night. Will they be as keen on the head high tackle or will that be just a penalty?
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"
So where do we go with this? Every team down to 11 or 12 by 15 mins into the game?'"
Not every team
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| Quote ="Father Ted"So it appears all these tackle tactics are now to be considered as foul play. Players committing this type of foul play are to be sin binned.
Has anyone told them that players can't be sin binned for foul play?
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They can for late hits on a kicker, sounds like they're just expanding the list.
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| I presume all clubs / coaches have been given detailed interpretation of this?
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| Quote ="WigansForeignLegion"As you're in the know, were all SL chairs there?'"
No, just the referees.
They were discussing the implementation of these directives put forward by the RFL after "Discussions" that some Chairs of the Super League clubs had with the RFL.
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| What was the discussion? Wigan are good and we don't like it?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"No, just the referees.
They were discussing the implementation of these directives put forward by the RFL after "Discussions" that some Chairs of the Super League clubs had with the RFL.'"
That's the nub of the issue. What we've probably had is some, not all, of the Chairs on the whinge and Red Hall enters appeasement (aka bending over backwards while handing them the Vaseline) mode.
I agree with the Owd Rogue, I can imagine Mr & Mrs G. Hetherington were at the forefront.
Ah well, just so long as the rules are applied CONSISTENTLY across ALL teams.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"The thing about being "in the know" is that you publicise it a lot, without publicising anything.'"
Now now Andy, Just because I didn't think it right and that I didnt think it was my place to tell everyone on a public forum that Amos Roberts wife had gone into labour and so wouldn't be playing at MM/Cardiff.
Obviously if people tell you things in confidence you have to be carefull what you can and can't say publically?
I let a number of people I know (Some who post on here some who don't) what I had been sent and told them it would be announced today.
With regards to some of the stuff I was told I can let you know that all the following will be "Automatic Sin-Bins".
Grapple
Chicken Wing
Ninja(? I dont know what that is either)
Crusher
& 1 more type of tackle that I can't remember the name of (Sorry).
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| Quote ="Conroy"What was the discussion? Wigan are good and we don't like it?'"
Obviously I would only be Hypothicising if I said that that's they way it came across in the meeting?
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Now now Andy, Just because I didn't think it right and that I didnt think it was my place to tell everyone on a public forum that Amos Roberts wife had gone into labour and so wouldn't be playing at MM/Cardiff.
Obviously if people tell you things in confidence you have to be carefull what you can and can't say publically?
I let a number of people I know (Some who post on here some who don't) what I had been sent and told them it would be announced today.
With regards to some of the stuff I was told I can let you know that all the following will be "Automatic Sin-Bins".
Grapple
Chicken Wing
Ninja(? I dont know what that is either)
Crusher
& 1 more type of tackle that I can't remember the name of (Sorry).'"
Just admit it Jukesy. Tha; knows naut!!!
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| Quote ="Father Ted"So it appears all these tackle tactics are now to be considered as foul play. Players committing this type of foul play are to be sin binned.
Has anyone told them that players can't be sin binned for foul play?
They are making it up as they bloody well go along!
Beggars belief it really does!
So how many rules are they changing now then? We must deduce from this, that from now on players can be sin binned for foul play. Is it all aspects of foul play or the ones just listed from their recent meeting?
In the Hull game two players should have been sin binned for fighting, they weren't and it caused a riot leading to a player being sent off. That was a complete and utter shambles.
So where do we go with this? Every team down to 11 or 12 by 15 mins into the game?'"
I share your frustration but it is worth pointing out that although I agree and it was also my understanding you couldn't be sin-binned for Foul play the just 1 thing, Why do players get sin binned for fighting? Isn't that Foul play?
I'm with you on the "They're just making it up as they go along" theory. From what I've been told that's exactly what they do!
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| Quote ="Conroy"Just admit it Jukesy. Tha; knows naut!!!'"
I know 1 thing for sure!
I'll be kicking your backside Friday Morning and if you don't shape yourself up that Gantry your Sacked!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I share your frustration but it is worth pointing out that although I agree and it was also my understanding you couldn't be sin-binned for Foul play the just 1 thing, Why do players get sin binned for fighting? Isn't that Foul play?
I'm with you on the "They're just making it up as they go along" theory. From what I've been told that's exactly what they do!'"
That's exactly what they did with the 'spirit of the cap' thing. From what I heard, they didn't have the first clue even when they walked into the hearing that Wigan had actually done nothing wrong.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Now now Andy, Just because I didn't think it right and that I didnt think it was my place to tell everyone on a public forum that Amos Roberts wife had gone into labour and so wouldn't be playing at MM/Cardiff.
Obviously if people tell you things in confidence you have to be carefull what you can and can't say publically?
I let a number of people I know (Some who post on here some who don't) what I had been sent and told them it would be announced today.
With regards to some of the stuff I was told I can let you know that all the following will be "Automatic Sin-Bins".
Grapple
Chicken Wing
[uNinja[/u(? I dont know what that is either)
Crusher
& 1 more type of tackle that I can't remember the name of (Sorry).'"
Tackle made on opponent streaking towards the line effected by the careful but swift application of pointy metal star into the anatomy of said opponent.
Equally, I believe the 'Sniper' tackle (the one you can't remember) has been banned and fans usually erecting fans will no longer be permitted to bring their Mannlicher Carcano carbines onto the gantries.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"That's exactly what they did with the 'spirit of the cap' thing. From what I heard, they didn't have the first clue even when they walked into the hearing that Wigan had actually done nothing wrong.'"
You mean something along the lines of "Were not sure what they're doing and to be honest nobody as got any proof that they're doing anything illegal but we have to be seen to be doing something about it" type conversation?
Sounds like a pretty similar type of conversation to me!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I know 1 thing for sure!
I'll be kicking your backside Friday Morning and if you don't shape yourself up that Gantry your Sacked!
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And if you whistle that fe*king tune, I'll be throwing you off
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Oh and BTW
They were discussing a few other rules that already exist and they are considering enforcing more strictly, out of coincidence these guys seem to be discussing a few of them on here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=487481
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Oh and BTW
They were discussing a few other rules that already exist and they are considering enforcing more strictly, out of coincidence these guys seem to be discussing a few of them on here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=487481
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| Will this apply to the international game? Yet another backward step,
I used to watch every Wigan game a year, but now it's only a handful due to a 2 hour commute, and the nambyfication of the game. Don't want anyone to deliberately injure someone, but FFS, RL is a physical game, let's not forget that, I don't recall any injuries being claimed from these tackle techniques? Educate me if I'm wrong, with examples.
If the refs could control the ptb, then of course none of it would happen.
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| Quote ="endoman"Will this apply to the international game? Yet another backward step,
I used to watch every Wigan game a year, but now it's only a handful due to a 2 hour commute, and the nambyfication of the game. Don't want anyone to deliberately injure someone, but FFS, RL is a physical game, let's not forget that, I don't recall any injuries being claimed from these tackle techniques? Educate me if I'm wrong, with examples.
If the refs could control the ptb, then of course none of it would happen.'"
Think Dave Kidwell was either injured or injured someone with a chicken wing and that seemed to kick it all off.
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| Thanks Conroy,
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Now now Andy, Just because I didn't think it right and that I didnt think it was my place to tell everyone on a public forum that Amos Roberts wife had gone into labour and so wouldn't be playing at MM/Cardiff.
Obviously if people tell you things in confidence you have to be carefull what you can and can't say publically?
I let a number of people I know (Some who post on here some who don't) what I had been sent and told them it would be announced today.
With regards to some of the stuff I was told I can let you know that all the following will be "Automatic Sin-Bins".
Grapple
Chicken Wing
Ninja(? I dont know what that is either)
Crusher
& 1 more type of tackle that I can't remember the name of (Sorry).'"
Nerve touch duly noted.
You're not really telling anyone anything there that isn't already public knowledge on other forums and started this thread. I was merely making the point that while some keep confidences, some like to publicise the fact they know something in a I know but I'm not going to tell you attention seeking way, they really should have got out of their system at Junior school.
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| One rule that needs changing is kicking out of bounds on the 5th tackle..instead of taking it from the 20 it should be from where the kicker kicked it from IMO..unless its inside the 20.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Nerve touch duly noted.
You're not really telling anyone anything there that isn't already public knowledge on other forums and started this thread. I was merely making the point that while some keep confidences, some like to publicise the fact they know something in a I know but I'm not going to tell you attention seeking way, they really should have got out of their system at Junior school.'"
Ok
If that's what you think?
I'm only aware of 3 things I've posted regarding rumours etc in the last 3 months or so.
1/Amos Roberts not playing at MM - All I did was say that He wasn't injured/dropped etc and there was no need to worry too much about why he wasn't playing. I didn't think it my place to explain why? I seem to recall you having a couple of digs about that, if your not interested in what I post then ignore it?
2/Finch playing last week, I remarked on a Hudds board that he wouldn't play last week
3/I replied to Brian that "Apparently" it was a very interesting meeting. This was a little bit of extra info that I found out Late last night "After" my previous texts to him and other people. I went on to further explain that there was apparently what seemed like an "Agenda" to the meeting etc and immediately you have another dig, again, if your not interested just ignore it?
Now if it bothers you that much that I may make the odd comment or two about certain situations and don't go blabbing everything I've been told all over the board then just ignore me.
If it's alright by you I'll continue to post when I want if that's ok?
PS
Saying "Touched a Nerve" BTW doesn't actually make it true, that would be like me saying that certain posters like to be perceived as highly intellectual and/ or better than other posters from behind a keyboard to make themselves feel better about themselves when in fact they're probably just posting a few things they'd like to say, about a subject that they're interested in?
PPS
Sorry if this posts grabs anyones attention on here, it's something I should have got out of my system when I left Junior school but apparently haven't?
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