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| Quote ="jonh"Mr Noble is going to live or die by his selections, he must have some faith in certain players for them to be in there this week after last weeks horror show, hope that the individuals really work for him and they go in with a better game plan as if they do not the pressure on him will be massive.'"
Agreed, in a week of such discontent (albeit after 1 round) and players clearly not performing, Noble is giving them all a chance to make amends and repay his faith. I hope he knows what he is doing.
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| Whatever happens it will be Mathers fault!!
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| Quote ="Hogan Knows Best"Whatever happens it will be Mathers fault!!'"
I have prepared some other excuses:
O'Loughlin is a rubbish captain
Phil Bailey is overpaid
Cameron Phelps
We need Micky Higham
McCain should be president
The Easter bunny doesn't exist
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| From that 19, I suspect it'll be:
Roberts
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Smith, Leuluai
Fielden, Riddell, Feka
Hock, Bailey
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Coley, Hansen, J.Tomkins, O'Carroll
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I think it will.
Riddell to be replaced by Tommy > Smith to SH > Lockers to SO > J. Tomkins to loose.'"
I agree Alex.
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| McIllorum has to be included, the rejig mid game is insane.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Layoff, that's mine!'"
All excuses available for general use, free of charge
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| Quote ="AJ"All excuses available for general use, free of charge
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Then get this one in now:
If Manu plays, our 3 (sometimes 2!) and hold defence is going to be smashed to pieces!
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| I thought he would bite the bullet and make a change or two. The select on form promise lasted what? until the fans forum finished
The right side defence will be very interesting v Hull.
Taxi for Noble
At least Mrs Noble will forgive him
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"icon_eek.gif I thought he would bite the bullet and make a change or two. The select on form promise lasted what? until the fans forum finished
The right side defence will be very interesting v Hull.
Taxi for Noble
At least Mrs Noble will forgive him'"
I dont changing everything round after 1 game is the answer, last week wat the start we needed but equally we need to get momentum and a consistant side out each week. Too many people pressing the panic button after just 80 minutes of RL.
We'll see how we go friday, the players know what they need to do. Im sure they are the first to admit it.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"icon_eek.gif I thought he would bite the bullet and make a change or two. The select on form promise lasted what? until the fans forum finished
The right side defence will be very interesting v Hull.
Taxi for Noble
At least Mrs Noble will forgive him'"
First of all lets see what the team is.
I expect McIlorum will be on the bench.
I do share your concerns for the right hand side defence. After watching the Superleague highlights that Alex posted, the early problems appeared to stem from Tim Smiths positioning. When O'Loughlin moved to stand off things got better.
IMO if we play TnT at 6 and 7 then Locky or Bailey will have to shore that right hand side up.
Noble is very loyal to his players, once you're in he tends to stick by you.
Fault or strength?
We'll see.
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| I can see your point Hogan and ordinarily I would agree. I just think Wakey was so bad 1 or 2 deserve shaking up.
I hope O'Carroll gets rewarded for a decent effort v Wakey
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
I expect McIlorum will be on the bench.
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Surely Noble can't overlook the impact Tommy has had at hooker?
He must go for the option that I suggested in this thread:
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Riddell to be replaced by Tommy > Smith to SH > Lockers to SO > J. Tomkins to loose.'"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"First of all lets see what the team is.
I expect McIlorum will be on the bench.
I do share your concerns for the right hand side defence. After watching the Superleague highlights that Alex posted, the early problems appeared to stem from Tim Smiths positioning. When O'Loughlin moved to stand off things got better.
IMO if we play TnT at 6 and 7 then Locky or Bailey will have to shore that right hand side up.
Noble is very loyal to his players, once you're in he tends to stick by you.
Fault or strength?
We'll see.'"
As I said in a previous post, Brad Drew targetted Smith and Phelps in the defensive line on our right side.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"First of all lets see what the team is.
I expect McIlorum will be on the bench.
I do share your concerns for the right hand side defence. After watching the Superleague highlights that Alex posted, the early problems appeared to stem from Tim Smiths positioning. When O'Loughlin moved to stand off things got better.
IMO if we play TnT at 6 and 7 then Locky or Bailey will have to shore that right hand side up.
Noble is very loyal to his players, once you're in he tends to stick by you.
Fault or strength?
We'll see.'"
The biggest probelm we have is that Smith is out of position at 6. The lads a scrum half not a stand off.
Yes in some cases it would not matter as you get players who can play both. Tim Smith however is not one of these players he is a classic 7.
Tommy is the more versatile of the two and should play at stand off even though his best position is definatly 9.
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| As the previous poster stated Smith is a 7
This may sound Irish but I would be tempted to bring Smith closer in re defence and put Lockers inside the right centre. Out wide is where you are often forced to defend 1 v 1 but closer to the action Smith would have other defenders to help him.
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| Quote ="- Neil -"The biggest probelm we have is that Smith is out of position at 6. The lads a scrum half not a stand off.
Yes in some cases it would not matter as you get players who can play both. Tim Smith however is not one of these players he is a classic 7.
Tommy is the more versatile of the two and should play at stand off even though his best position is definatly 9.'"
there isnt much difference at wigan if you play scrum half or stand off, they just split the field smith operates the right and lulu the left its only on 4th that they link up
tommy should move up to 9 and bring sam on but then i think where very lightweight in defence
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| In terms of defence what I cannot fathom is why Noble does not adjust his defence to fit the team. We have a big set of forwards and reasonably fast backs. Surely, an umbrella defence with the backs moving up quickly to force the opposition back into our forwards is a better bet than our sliding defence.
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"bet you thought he was useless when he won the 3 grand finals he has to his name, guess you think he was useless when we got to the semi final on 2 occasions under him, we all know that noble always has 3 or 4 forwards on the bench thats the game he plays, he wants forwards, you need forwards to get up the field to let your backs play of the back of that'"
I'm not turning this into another anti Noble thread. If you want to look at how me and others rate Noble and the problems i have with his management then look on the anti Noble thread.
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"there isnt much difference at wigan if you play scrum half or stand off, they just split the field smith operates the right and lulu the left its only on 4th that they link up
tommy should move up to 9 and bring sam on but then i think where very lightweight in defence'"
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I think it will.
Riddell to be replaced by Tommy > Smith to SH > Lockers to SO > J. Tomkins to loose.'"
I think he should start off with Tommy, put riddell on the bench, then have smith at SH, Lockers at SO and have J Tomkins starting at loose... That way it'll give Riddell time to read the game from the bench, he can come on, see where the weak areas are in Hull's defence and exploit em.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I think it will.
Riddell to be replaced by Tommy > Smith to SH > Lockers to SO > J. Tomkins to loose.'"
Not again and so I take it you expect McIllorum to miss out of the 17?
If so and if Coley plays that will mean the only change will have been the forced change of Mathers.
Unless if course he puts Prescott in instead of O'Caroll
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| Quote ="DaveO"Not again and so I take it you expect McIllorum to miss out of the 17?
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Unfortunately, yeah.
Tommy playing at hooker is too good of an attacking oppotunity to miss out on.
On the other hand, we do need stability at 6 and 7.
It's a big headache for Noble.
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