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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Nobody will be laughing at the Wolfs. You guys know how hard we are. In fact I don't know if any Leeds fans will dare turn up, they know there will be that much violence coming from the Wolfs. I hope G4S have got enough security on hand or the government might need to draft in the army to prevent London turning into a bloodbath.'"
Where did I say I was laughing at the Wolves - I was referring to that thing given away by the Guardian this week however I am not sure that the type of violence you seem to be advocating is welcome in rugby league circles. Congratulations though as I see from your sig that you have already won the challenge cup - well done
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| Quote ="Saville Row"You Pies still smarting from the kicking we gave you last week I see. 12 pages of guff about another team's result speaks volumes.'"
Anyone who thinks that Wigan fans shouldn't be interested in that result (given that you were only 1 point behind us in the league) is being willfully stupid. Take a bow ...
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| It'll be interesting at that u20's level in the play offs.
Wigan have been poor this season by their standards but come those play offs should have a very strong team out and they'll be tough to stop.
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| its all change from last year all you wigan fans was saying wining the LLS is nothing now that your prob going to win it its the best thing since sliced bread. make your mind up
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| Quote ="jaybezz76"its all change from last year all you wigan fans was saying wining the LLS is nothing now that your prob going to win it its the best thing since sliced bread. make your mind up'"
We are yes. All of us. Maybe our MP will protest to Parliament for us to be known as the champions.
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| Quote ="jaybezz76"its all change from last year all you wigan fans was saying wining the LLS is nothing now that your prob going to win it its the best thing since sliced bread. make your mind up'"
Last year, it’s all change from last week. Plenty of Wolfies whelps were howling when they thought the treble was a stone banker, the LLS was part of a nice loaf then, now it seems it only fit for the birds, now you’d think they’d never wanted it in the first place.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Anyone who thinks that Wigan fans shouldn't be interested in that result (given that you were only 1 point behind us in the league) is being willfully stupid. Take a bow
Yes, still smarting, if they drubbed us and we tonked you twice, how can that be ?
I went to both our game and your game at the Stoop ( I live down in London) and I can tell you London were not he same team that played your guys. Such is sport.
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"Last year, it’s all change from last week. Plenty of Wolfies whelps were howling when they thought the treble was a stone banker, the LLS was part of a nice loaf then, now it seems it only fit for the birds, now you’d think they’d never wanted it in the first place.'"
Still is for us but alas not for you. Good luck with Salford !
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| Quote ="jaybezz76"its all change from last year all you wigan fans was saying wining the LLS is nothing now that your prob going to win it its the best thing since sliced bread. make your mind up'"
Some of us do, and always have, thought the championship should be the most important trophy available. Some of us are quite happy to say so whoever wins it. I think you need to open a dictionary and check out the difference between 'some' and 'all'.
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| The best team over a season wins the league, it was ever thus.
That team should win the Grand Final, but the playoffs have more than a little of a lottery element to it for me. Whilst i can see the appeal of the playoffs, the LLS is the hardest to win for me.
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| Hardest to win yet still the lesser of the 3, which in my view is a bit pathetic, there definitely needs to be something put in to place that actual recognises the achievement of finishing top.
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| Perhaps a simple name change would help. e.g. League Winners Shield or, better still, League Champions Shield. I think Smith used the word "champions" not "leaders" after the game last Friday.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Hardest to win yet still the lesser of the 3, which in my view is a bit pathetic, there definitely needs to be something put in to place that actual recognises the achievement of finishing top.'"
There is, they get £50K. I do think that the old Championship Trophy should be used instead of the shield.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There is, they get £50K. I do think that the old Championship Trophy should be used instead of the shield.'"
£50k, says it all.....
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Hardest to win yet still the lesser of the 3, which in my view is a bit pathetic, there definitely needs to be something put in to place that actual recognises the achievement of finishing top.'"
Automatic qualification for the Grand Final for finishing 1st in a top 5 play-off system would somewhat solve that problem.
The problem remains is that the RFL probably won't change it.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"The best team over a season wins the league, it was ever thus.
That team should win the Grand Final, but the playoffs have more than a little of a lottery element to it for me. Whilst i can see the appeal of the playoffs, the LLS is the hardest to win for me.'"
Finishing top of the pile, is a true gauge of the quality of a side over the course of the season addressing every eventuality. Unfortunately, everybody, and I am comfortable in using that sweeping generalisation, has fallen for the hype generated by Sky, that a seven month season only gather importance for four weeks. It is so ridiculous, it borders on the unbelievable.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Finishing top of the pile, is a true gauge of the quality of a side over the course of the season addressing every eventuality. Unfortunately, everybody, and I am comfortable in using that sweeping generalisation, has fallen for the hype generated by Sky, that a seven month season only gather importance for four weeks. It is so ridiculous, it borders on the unbelievable.'"
I'd go with that. Most of the talk on Boots and All last week was who was going to finish 7th and 8th (and then get an absolute hammering in the play-offs). Top of the pile should get a worthwhile cash prize, £200,000 at least.
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| What’s in a name? LLS is a rubbish name and trophy for the achievement, hence the derogatory hubcap epithet, and I’m not just saying that because it may be Wigan’s this year. Whoever finishes top of the pile should be “Champions” the winners of the grand final should be just that, Grand Final Winners, GFW. The shield is only like some type of Man of the Match award IMO nothing more.
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| Quote ="Th'Observer"Automatic qualification for the Grand Final for finishing 1st in a top 5 play-off system would somewhat solve that problem.
The problem remains is that the RFL probably won't change it.'"
OR:
Teams 2 through to 9 go through the playoffs as it stands. The winner of the playoffs then play the League Champions, the winner of this will then go to the World Club Challenge.
Just another thought ^^
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| Quote ="Norwegian_Warrior"OR:
Teams 2 through to 9 go through the playoffs as it stands. The winner of the playoffs then play the League Champions, the winner of this will then go to the World Club Challenge.
Just another thought ^^'"
think 3 weeks without a game would not be ideal for the team finishing top
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"think 3 weeks without a game would not be ideal for the team finishing top'"
They could have warm up games with the non qualifying 3 teams maybe? Keeps everyone involved then.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"There is, they get £50K. I do think that the old Championship Trophy should be used instead of the shield.'"
They should get the current SL trophy imo and a re-make of the Championship trophy should be used to crown the Champions at Old Trafford. (or vice versa, but they should certainly be the two used)
The team that finishes top should be rewarded more, and the playoffs should be a top 5 system as was. If you finish top after 27 rounds you should be given a nice big trophy (as you are in Oz) and it should be nigh on impossible for you to fail to make the final.
If you finish below 1st then you should have to at least beat them once to win the GF.
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