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| Quote ="Bluenosewarrior"What else as he done?!
Go and watch every game of this season and then comeback you complete and utter idiot.'"
It's obvious he shows that kind of respect to his peers on the pitch!
He has upset plenty with underhand niggleing
It doesn't bother me, every team needs a bit of niggle but if he wants man of steel don't be a complete twonk to the people who have to vote for ya! Leave that to the likes of Bailey, Joel and pryce
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"It's obvious he shows that kind of respect to his peers on the pitch!
He has upset plenty with underhand niggleing
It doesn't bother me, every team needs a bit of niggle but if he wants man of steel don't be a complete twonk to the people who have to vote for ya! Leave that to the likes of Bailey, Joel and pryce'"
Chase was banned for getting on top of another playing and battering him....thats ok though?
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Quote ="tropical1"Man of Steel is voted for by the players, not the media not the fans and not the powers that be, this award is players showing respect for their fellow professionals and for any of you who have ever played the game there is not better award to win at your end of season awards than players player. So it doesn't matter what the fans think this award is for players showing respect to the person they feel has had the best season.
The article is back on m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23465093'"
100% bang on and anybody can see from some of Tomkins actions why his peers don't respect him.
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Quote ="tropical1"Man of Steel is voted for by the players, not the media not the fans and not the powers that be, this award is players showing respect for their fellow professionals and for any of you who have ever played the game there is not better award to win at your end of season awards than players player. So it doesn't matter what the fans think this award is for players showing respect to the person they feel has had the best season.
The article is back on m.mirror.co.uk/article?a=m4:23465093'"
100% bang on and anybody can see from some of Tomkins actions why his peers don't respect him.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"It's obvious he shows that kind of respect to his peers on the pitch!
He has upset plenty with underhand niggleing
It doesn't bother me, every team needs a bit of niggle but if he wants man of steel don't be a complete twonk to the people who have to vote for ya! Leave that to the likes of Bailey, Joel and pryce'"
I thought the award is supposed to be for the stand out performer in the whole league? Not who is best in the showers or who is an all round good egg. If people seriously think that Tomkins is the only player that has done a bit of niggling then they are more deluded than I thought. Not just that but why is Chase also rated in front of Roby? That utter stupidity too
The king of niggle plays for Leeds anyway, Danny mcguire
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| Its that embarrassing that its actually funny, just like international RL.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"I thought the award is supposed to be for the stand out performer in the whole league? Not who is best in the showers or who is an all round good egg. If people seriously think that Tomkins is the only player that has done a bit of niggling then they are more deluded than I thought. Not just that but why is Chase also rated in front of Roby? That utter stupidity too
The king of niggle plays for Leeds anyway, Danny mcguire
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of course loads of players niggle! To mention McGuire is a joke. Mcguie is not dirty at all. that's just Wigan hate(Wigan translation jealousy) well that's what you say when anyone mentions tomkin! But the other players who niggle arnt in the running for MOS!
All the blokes who win it from now on will be good players but guys who play the game in good spirt! The game needs nigglers but not many will win MoS steel. Tomkin has a cocky arrogance which Is a part of him. That's fair enough. But it isn't gonna help him win MOS. Thems the brakes!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"of course loads of players niggle! [uTo mention McGuire is a joke. Mcguie is not dirty at all.[/u that's just Wigan hate(Wigan translation jealousy) well that's what you say when anyone mentions tomkin! But the other players who niggle arnt in the running for MOS!
All the blokes who win it from now on will be good players but guys who play the game in good spirt! The game needs nigglers but not many will win MoS steel. Tomkin has a cocky arrogance which Is a part of him. That's fair enough. But it isn't gonna help him win MOS. Thems the brakes!'"
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Your opinion no longer holds any validity on RL matters.'"
I think you'll find it's only really wigan fans who think he is dirty.
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| This is a ridiculous thread and sums up what's been happening on this Site for a while now. The award was voted for by the players, including the Wigan players, and Chase was the winner. Unfortunately Wigan players can't win everything and the SL players as a whole decided that Rangi Chase was the stand-out player for this season, end of story.
Wire fans think we should have been Club of the Year, but it was given to the Catalans, who have made tremendous progress this year, and most of us accept that. Get out of the Goldfish bowl and realise that there is more to the game than Wigan.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"This is a ridiculous thread and sums up what's been happening on this Site for a while now. The award was voted for by the players, including the Wigan players, and Chase was the winner. Unfortunately Wigan players can't win everything and the SL players as a whole decided that Rangi Chase was the stand-out player for this season, end of story.
Wire fans think we should have been Club of the Year, but it was given to the Catalans, who have made tremendous progress this year, and most of us accept that. Get out of the Goldfish bowl and realise that there is more to the game than Wigan.'"
I agree with your first sentence, the site is full of fans from other boards who don't read threads, make things up and are obsessed with Wigan. If you'd actually bothered to read the thread you'll see a few who are moaning, the rest are pretty much not bothered about it. Considerably less whinging has gone on in this thread than that on the Wire board when no Wire player was on the shortlist.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"This is a ridiculous thread and sums up what's been happening on this Site for a while now. The award was voted for by the players, including the Wigan players, and Chase was the winner. Unfortunately Wigan players can't win everything and the SL players as a whole decided that Rangi Chase was the stand-out player for this season, end of story.
Wire fans think we should have been Club of the Year, but it was given to the Catalans, who have made tremendous progress this year, and most of us accept that. Get out of the Goldfish bowl and realise that there is more to the game than Wigan.'"
As most have said, I think Sam OR ROBY should have won it above Chase, nothing to do with Wigan. Of course it's voted for by the players, doesn't mean we have to agree with them. I actually think M Monas should have been in the 3 above Chase.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Its obvious why tomkin didn't win it'"
What would a Leeds fan know about man of steel?
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| IMO Tomkins has one nothing since Wembley and even then he didn't play particularly well - in fact, some aspects of his play were starting to really get on my wick. So not surprised in the slightest that he didn't win, especially if it's voted for by the players. More surprised that Roby didn't win but i suppose Chase has carried his team for most of the year...
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Well done Rangi did a great job carrying a team on his own into errrrr 9th place?
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Get over it,he won,sam lost end of.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"This is a ridiculous thread and sums up what's been happening on this Site for a while now. The award was voted for by the players, including the Wigan players, and Chase was the winner. Unfortunately Wigan players can't win everything and the SL players as a whole decided that Rangi Chase was the stand-out player for this season, end of story.
Wire fans think we should have been Club of the Year, but it was given to the Catalans, who have made tremendous progress this year, and most of us accept that. Get out of the Goldfish bowl and realise that there is more to the game than Wigan.'"
A forum is all about people voicing/exchanging opinions and as long as theres no personal abuse etc there isnt really a problem is there?. Its like anything some things you will agree with and some you wont. Chase winning was a farce imo but thats just my opinion. That doesnt mean its wrong or right its just what I feel.
The trouble is our goldfish bowl is full of people from other goldfish bowls for some reason even though they hate us
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| Quote ="007"Get over it,he won,sam lost end of.'"
Well somebody has to donate him a trophy dont they? He isnt gonna actually win one now hes signed a new deal is he?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"100% bang on and anybody can see from some of Tomkins actions why his peers don't respect him.'"
Plenty of these peers who don't respect him still voted for him, though. How does that work?
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| i reckon the only reason Rangy (i am english) Case has won is because the voters couldnt decide between Sam and Roby, so they voted for Chase
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Wouldnt call a new contract at a pap team a good headline. I would call it taking the easy option. Its not his country either!'"
A pap team that doesnt cheat the cap to survive and held you to a draw at their place ? The Goldthorpe medal winner is now the MOS. Sam is a great player and his time will come so , just for once , show a bit of class and congratulate the winner.
Well done Mr Chase
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Well somebody has to donate him a trophy dont they? He isnt gonna actually win one now hes signed a new deal is he?
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Oh dear make that 2 cos the scribes awarded chase the goldthorpe medal as well
get over it
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| Quote ="Deano G"Yesterday really was an appalling day in the history of RL, though the incompetence, hypocrisy and [uWigan hating of much of the RL world [/uwas actually very amusing.
First the story finally breaks that some clubs have been underpaying the revenue, a clear breach of rule A3:1 of the RFL's operational rules.
In other sports an announcement would be made by the governing body that the clubs concerned were being investigated for misconduct. But no, this is rugby league, and as others have said on this board the political reality of our morally bankrupt game is that they will not be punished for breaching A3:1 or for the obvious and very serious breach of the spirit of the salary cap that this failed tax avoidance constitutes.
And then we have the players' opinion on who the greatest player of 2011 was. What's their opinion worth? Well as a group who have taken years to form a union and given that many players - like turkeys voting for Christmas - still speak out in favour of the salary cap, despite the cap having reduced their wages collectively by more than 30% in real terms, I attach very little weight to what they say on any subject.
The truth of course is that Sam Tomkins played some breathtaking rugby this season. He's the best British player since Hanley and if he avoids injury and stays in RL he could well go on to top even the great man. Chase is a very good player and Roby has had an extraordinary season but Sam is just on a different level.
The reality is that this award, like much that goes on in RL, is a complete joke. So while the muppets in the RL establishment continue to damage the game with their politics, hypocrisy[u and Wigan hating[/u, I suppose at least we can have a laugh at the expense of these total idiots.
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Nurse! Nurse!
This man's medication is obviously not strong enough.
He needs a stronger dose in future.
Oh, and while you're at it nurse, he needs more padding on his cell wall, and his straight jacket needs upgrading.
It's sad when they get like this, nurse....very sad.
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| Quote ="neverdid"Oh dear make that 2 cos the scribes awarded chase the goldthorpe medal as well
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Ive got chocolate medals worth more than the Albert Goldthorpe. Like ive said earlier in the thread RE the MOS its just my opinion. You are obviously gonna disagree because your a Cas fan, thats only natural.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Ive got chocolate medals worth more than the Albert Goldthorpe. Like ive said earlier in the thread RE the MOS its just my opinion. You are obviously gonna disagree because your a Cas fan, thats only natural.'"
Of course you have, medals i mean, its funny how it was a big thing (the goldthorpe) when it looked like sam was gonna win it.
Sam will be a world beater of that there is no doubt, but while most realise that they still cant give credit to anyone not wearing red and white, and for that reason , you have my pity.
As for wigan haters, the game isnt big enough for hate so please drop the pretence that your lot are special , A damn good rugby league club , but not the messiahs ffs.
Its a game , Rangi was voted as MOS in that game ........ get over it
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| Its an award that never fails to create confusion.
What is always more controversial than who the award actually goes to is the process itself for me.
Are players really the best judge of who has had the most significant impact on the competition? Do the players have time to watch every round of Superleague and analyse opposition players week in week out?
As i understand it players tend to focus on who their opposition is for the next game (some don't even do that!) and many won't even bother to watch highlights from other games played on the same day or weekend.
Im not sure what the solution is to giving the award more credibility but perhaps some kind of recognised points system would be an improvement similar to the AG medal winner.
Well done to Chase, Roby and Tomkins who have all haD sensational seasons for their clubs - im just not convinced that the players are best placed to decide who wins the MOS.
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