didn't necessarily mean to compare their respective incidents as it were, more to the point of getting rid of gleeson who we could have kept hold of and used while on the other hand gaz hock has been of no use to wigan while serving his ban. glesson hasn't been banned for this. we've just got rid, which is why i feel we have lost out in the gleeson issue whereas we haven't gained anything while gaz has been banned.

basically what i'm saying is if gleeson is good enough to play for hull then why did wigan get rid. his circumstances haven't changed and he will still have his problems but hull have decided to risk it whereas wigan have lost out on probably one of our top two defensive players, certainly centres. the results since he has been ommitted fromthe team are evident.

Well worth the price of a title win.

When was your last BTW?

Similar situation to the Sean Long scenario.
Wigan had to get rid and another team got the benefit (albeit Gleeson is in his thirties and Long was about 20).

Yeah Gareth Hock only had one moment of idiocy not like that ex-Academy player Gareth Charnock.

He did one thing wrong repeatedly over the course of several months.....

its a fine line between what Hock did and what charnock did

Gareth Charnock NEVER played for Wigan academy.

Enlighten me then because I am absolutely p!ssed that Wigan are down a top quality centre that we paid 100K for who now has a Super League contract and Hull FC have a top draw British centre.

I don't know the truth in all these dubious rumours, but on the cold hard face of it we've been screwed over.

Oh, I guess he had already "left" the club by then.

At least Gareth Hock isn't a repeat offender though Rogues?

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Were the only real losers from this situation IMO. The only saving grace from this being I hear Gleeson was a disruptive entity at training, and tried to lead other players down the slippery slope that he was on.

TBH I'm struggling why some are feeling hard done to with regards the Gleeson situation. The club will have known he would likely sign for someone else pretty soon after and will no doubt have taken that into account in terms of the conditions of his release from the club.

Given the club forked out for him and realised what an important player he was, you can draw your own conclusion why they were still prepared to release him. Given the situation, no club would have paid a transfer fee for him or swapped any decent players we would want.

To misquote the line from the song "There WILL be trouble ahead". The terrible twins reunited - glad I don't live in Hull!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hull must have the worst BOD in Super League.
To re-unite Long and Gleeson they are not just mad but absolutely barking! Good player, yes, but.......................
Haven't they just got rid of Tansey for disciplinary reasons and sent quite a few packing before him?
This just beggars belief by Kath Hetherington and her BOD.
She and them are useless!
Mind you, they gave Richard Agar a new two year deal last autumn, so we knew they were hopeless anyway!
The Hull FC fans deserve far, far better than that lot who are running their club.

no, they dont

i think it stinks.........so much for a break to get his head right.

most of Wigan know the "real problem" in his personal life..........but i think Gleesons taking the pee here tbh.

i hope his problems are "resolved" soon........then i fancy he will take a long break...

didnt Hock admit to taking cocaine on a regular basis before he got caught, and he would no doubt still be taking it now had he not been caught out.

So we let him go due to a minor disciplinary problem, injuries and so he could take some time away form the game to sort himself out.

So now he's signed for Hull the injuries can't be a problem and he's not taking any time away from the game. So that leaves [uminor[/u disciplinary" problem as the reason. We may even have paid him compensation.

If so we have paid out to strengthen another team and could not deal with the minor issues he had. Or the press release from the club was another complete waste of time and those were not the reasons at all.

C'mon Dave, you're obviously intelligent enough not to be that naive. This blame culture/knickers in a twist thing you've got going at the moment is making you look a bit silly.

No I think Dave is correct on this one.

IF we've payed Gleeson to leave the club then it's a seriously massive F up by IL. We've lost a quality player and are massively out pocket saying we payed him off plus spent 100k to bring him here in the first place.

How is that good business by Wigan.

IMO we should have fined him heavily and worked with him and against the scumbag scouse people who created this mess.

The only loser in this situation is Wigan for me.

As I said on the previous page:

"The club will have known he would likely sign for someone else pretty soon after and will no doubt have taken that into account in terms of the conditions of his release from the club.

Given the club forked out for him and realised what an important player he was, you can draw your own conclusion why they were still prepared to release him. Given the situation, no club would have paid a transfer fee for him or swapped any decent players we would want."

Suits him, I think (hope).

Another scr0te to add to your collection.

This whole situation stinks. People can blame IL all they want, ultimately Gleason is to blame and i wish him no luck in his future career.

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Wow. Chomp, chomp and chomp.