The reality is you allowed a team from the other end of the table, over whom you had a massive lead, to kick your asses in front of your home crowd. Ouch.

Once again, Kick our asses by 4 points? Take a step back from the bitterness you obviously hold and have a look at what your saying. Yes, we lost and Bradford deserved their win, but it certainly wasn't an ass kicking, and it certainly wouldn't mean we were dross.

I don't blame you for being angry.


It must hurt to know that the primary reason for your teams success was a rule brought in by the RFL rather than footballing excellence.

Not youir fault, but the reality is that all those victories ring a very hollow note.


It's akin to a CC being brought in to Soccer, Aston Villa doing well in it, then claiming to be a bigger club than Man Utd.

Ahhh so it isnt just my questions that you cant answer if it wont suit your Bitter little argument. You have ignored me twice, maybe you cant see, so I'll ask you in letters you cant miss. IF WE ARE A MEDIUM SIZED CLUB, WHO ELSE WOULD YOU CALL A MEDIUM SIZED CLUB?

I generally ignore Stains posters who post here. I will make an exception though.


Medium sized clubs?

Warrington
Stains
Hull
Hull KR
Castleford


Essentially there are only 2 "big" clubs Wigan and Leeds.

Why?

You consider all them to be Medium sized clubs? Therefore I will ask you the question. If as you say, the salary cap is the Primary reason a "Medium sized" Club liks us have won so much, then why haven't the others also acheived this?

You must be the most bitter person in wigan. I'm no fan of the SC in its current form, but surely you can see that unlimited spending almost destroyed your club?
Also the bigger club depends heavily on how you measure it.
Saints have over 20% higher turnover than Wigan, so does that make us "bigger"?
Wigan have more Season ticket holders does that make you "bigger"?
You can't really pick between our academy and reserve teams, so nothing there.
What measure do you use?

Number of Stains posters on this board?

Ahhh, so no answer for either of us then?

Are you blind?

^^^^^

Where is your answer to my question? Which for the benefit of you as you appear to be short of sight. IF YOU CALL ALL THEM CLUBS MEDIUM SIZED CLUBS, AND THEN STATE THAT THE PRIMARY REASON WE HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL IS THE SALARY CAP, THEN WHY HAVENT THE AFOREMENTIONED CLUBS BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE HAVE?

You have 9 page thread on a saints match, we only have 5 pages on our own board, who is obsessed?

.....but most of the posts on here are from Stains fans.


Therefore, once again it is you...............

No amount of poor grammar and an inability to type in lower case can change the facts.


I said the CC is the PRIMARY reason Stains have won as much as they have over recent years, not the only reason.

This will be my last respnse to you.

Go away.

Poor Grammar? Wasn't aware it was an English test, and your spelling at times you are one to talk.
If it is the PRIMARY (Nice use of lower case by the way) reason, then why haven't other teams such as Warrington and Castleford got anywhere near us?
To translate this being your last response, it is because you have no answer. Your bitterness has once again been exposed, I can understand why you are angry to be fair, you were once the best club in the World now you have to watch your Rivals at the top of the league, whilst you worry if you can make it into the top 8.

You sir/madam are dilluded

I would have included Bradford in there to be honest, well until recently that is. Their financial position seems pretty bad and the whole club seems to be lurching towards disaster, which personally I feel sad about. Bradford is a club I've always found hard to hate, despite the period of ridiculous Bullmania hype. Maybe its the uncompromising pack they've always prided themselves on or the special place that Odsal holds in RL, the only ground that could be said to rival CP - and of course unlike CP its still here, albeit very dilapidated.

The sad thing for Bradford fans is that if the SC had been working correctly - and we are all aware that the purpose of the SC when it was brought in was to ensure financial stability, before it was hijacked by the fanatics who believe in the level playing field - their club wouldn't be in such financial plight.

It's a fair call actually.

Bradford should be included.

Ahhh okay then Bradford are a big club too, and have managed to win trophies without being "Handicapped" by the salary cap, yet you have largely failed to. Us as a "medium" sized club have won 5 super league's in the summer era yet Warrington, Hull e.t.c Have won a Grand total of none between them. Sort of blows away your bitter little argument really doesn't it?

Is there a particular reason you seem to spend most of your time on here?

Is there a particular reason it's any of your business?

was just curious is all bud. But no its not really any of my business.

I just dont get why people who arnt wigan fans spend so much time on here! I would have thought they would get more enjoyment talking about their team as opposed to another.

Brett Kenny entertains me, It's always comical to see how Bitter he can be as a Wigan fan. So far this week alone, he has blamed the Salary Cap and The RFL changing the rules to suit us as the reasons as to why we have been so successful.

Well people always try to find reasons for other people success after all we only won things cos we had more money and bought the league.

Seldom do people give credit where its due. But thats just my opinion